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Hard to see us winning this, but liking the effort and intent.

No Spencer? Emergency for the firsts, but normally they're also named at Casey if playing.

Easily: "Hogan damaged his back in a recent NAB Challenge match when a knee from an opponent forced him from the field. "

Not a defensible argument, not sure why you and others here even bother continuing with it. Situation at Melbourne is identical to situation across every club and across every sport. Injuries do/don't show up in scans etc., injuries do/don't respond to standard treatments etc. etc.

Because TGR knows more about the specifics of Hogan's physical condition(s) than the Medicos or staff at the club.

There you have it. Information doesn't get much more in-depth or accurate than that. FFS.

The club sets realistic expectations on when they will return on the basis of available and known information. On the other hand injury/health management is subject to any number of variables. Not sure why that should be contentious, or difficult to deal with.

There's a get out of jail right there … one less to worry about. Now all we need is for Franklin to turn it on ...

Toumpas: 11 disposals and 5 marks in just over a quarter of footy. Sounds like he too was headed for a 30+ possession game. Toumpas, Riley, Salem, Harmes … something to work with? BTW, Blease's stats aren't too shoddy either.

N Jones: more Brownlow votes

That high?

Worse than the WC game. There, we were overrun by a slick outfit. Not true of today, we should be matching them.

Not sure what role McKenzie is supposed to be playing. What happened to the blue-collar scragging, tackling machine we knew and (sometimes) loved? Looks lost.

At least JKH has an excuse (inexperience). As for the rest ...

If it's up to him to make his own calls, then you can't actually give him a way to back out as that right is not yours to give. Anyway … back to JT and his foot?

Too obvious! He's also been included ahead of Nicholson, Byrnes and Blease. Has earned his stripes, and will now hold his place in the team. Pleased for him.

"Trengove sustained a stress fracture in the same foot in December 2012, affecting his 2013 season. However, that stress fracture was not in the navicular bone."

Neville Jetta gets his chance? Has earned it from all reports, though who to drop?

… we had 3 pages of this after he was drafted. Believe it's been done to death, but heh, going to be one of the ongoing memes on Demonland I suspect.

The presence of Dawes, even with his 8 possessions, shows just what we've been missing ONFIELD these lasts 5 years. Now with Jones and Grimes, who both played Captain's games yesterday, plus players like Dawes and Cross, you'd have to hope/expect that players coming through now won't have to deal with what many of our "he was a high draft pick, what happened?" players have had to. Perhaps no accident that Frawley puts in his best game for a long time playing alongside Dawes.

Thanks for the reports WJ.

The King Prawns in Black Bean sauce aren't too bad either.

http://watchafl.afl.com.au Subscription, yearly or by match, month etc. Works OK/well, though is better on an iPad through their app. But started at 4.45 this morning, not sure just how much of a Demons fan your daughter is, that's hard yards there. Slightly easier across the water, where we're an hour later.

Too complicated.

That's "if" rather than "when". Just in general, not in response to this post, think some here are underestimating the severity of Mitch's condition, or this condition in general. It's a long road, sometimes a road without end.