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+ Jefferson?

This. Needs to at least bring it to ground, but even that seems too much. For a big guy he's constantly being out-bodied.

Apart from anything else, paying the price for playing our future all at once. Windsor and Langford constantly turning it over, Tholstrup doing nothing except bring energy, McVee rusty. Lindsay about the only one who can hold his head up. Will play dividends in the long term, but hurting us now. Also cough Fullerton cough.

Isn't 2027 when Tasmania enter the draft?

11th. Equal with Giants, between Port and the Cats.

Much prefer him to Lyon in that role. Nothing against Lyon per se, but he's both opinionated and forthright about his opinions, which then turned OTC into a bit of a pub discussion when everyone's fighting to have their voices heard. Lyon is better on AFL360 where he only has one person to bounce off/come back at him, while Riewoldt's tentativeness and cooler approach lets others in without the argy bargy.

2b/ Forward half pressure. Stops the opposition launching attacks from the back half.

Not mutually exclusive.

If he goes, get 2 or 3 strong 1st-round picks, use them on Matt Rowell or Harley Reid.

I see that you're new around here.

Petty more goals in 3 quarters than JVR in 5 matches.

Don't see how we win this, especially with the outs. Hopefully there are a few positives to take out of it and we can build on the past couple of weeks (in whatever shape or form that might take). Will be good to see the 4 horseman of the apocalypse together for the first time, though they're all a bit underdone.

Confirmation bias. Especially when Simpson put his hand up and said that he'd failed.

Kevin Bartlett: The 403-gamer admitted it’s been a disappointing start to 2025 for the Demons, but doesn’t think Goodwin is solely to blame. “All the talk about Simon Goodwin surprises me,” Bartlett said on Wide World of Sports. “There’s a lot of things happening at Melbourne, but I don’t think it’s the coach,” he said. “You’ve got a good coach, support him.” https://www.3aw.com.au/why-the-talk-on-simon-goodwins-future-surprises-kevin-bartlett/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJu6sxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHhbyY3e_20noS8MgqBz9kB_uDCAvTF0a949Y8cRRche6Gss9NTc7EWpQZlHa_aem_qpteSh45qGd29OueuagKCQ

It doesn't matter whether you buy it not, it's a fact. Go back and watch the Simpson interview, where he went through trying to change the way WCE players - and admitted that it failed. And it failed because he didn't have the players who could play the way they were trying. Plenty of other examples as well.

It's not all that revolving. Jefferson was injured, Johnson got himself suspended, and when he came back didn't show much/enough. Turner's the only one who's been in/out, though he's a bit of an enigma in that he clearly can deliver but then doesn't - not on a consistent basis. The coaches have backed Fritsch and JVR to find form, but this week's axing is just an acknowledgment that there's a limit to that kind of patience.

Not helped by injuries and setbacks to at least some of those who would have helped drive it, and a whole slew of consequences that flowed on from that (e.g., Rivers back to the backline). Yes, all teams have injuries, yadda yadda, but in terms of getting a new, faster ball movement approach off and running we desperately needed the 4 amigos (Linsday, Windsor, Langford, Tholstrup) playing every match. It may not have made much of a difference in the short term, but would have put us further along the path.

"Simon has achieved a lot at the Demons and they'll evolve and come again," Beveridge said. "They're going through a period of change, but he's an outstanding coach and he's an outstanding person." https://www.afl.com.au/news/1300996/totally-invested-here-luke-beveridge-distances-himself-from-melbourne-demons-move

If anyone's interested, an article on the Simpson/Longmire AFL360 discussion re changing game style, players etc. Fox Sports‘We got it wrong’: AFL great’s warning to Dees on ‘priori...‘We got it wrong’: AFL great’s warning to Dees on ‘priority they need to address’ now

Not in comparison to what's going on up forward. In spite of everything we are getting it in there, but we're about the worst in the league for scores from I50's. Sure, delivery isn't ideal, but even back in our heyday there was a LOT of bombing it in. It's just that we were then much much better at locking it in, either through marking or bringing the ball to ground and forcing a contest.

Watch AFL360 with Simpson and Langmuir and get back to us. Simpson especially talks about trying to change the WCE approach at the end of 2021, even bringing in assistant coaches who were more across what they were trying to do - and how it failed because he didn't have the players who could play the way they wanted. When talking about the Dees he says it outright: "the biggest thing is going to be does the personnel fit the change (in game style)?" He elaborated a bit on his WCE experience: "we tried to press behind with our ball movement, but our players weren't built for that, so that's what I got wrong." (As an aside, gutsy of him to admit his mistakes so publicly, he didn't need to.) Longmuir is also very big on the need for the playing style and personnel to mesh (uses the word frequently in this context).

We're desperate.

Everybody outside the club seems to be an expert on what's going on inside the club.