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Jeffo will only come in if one of the other talls goes out. Can't see them dropping anyone, in spite of anything, players like Petty and Turner need game time. So depends on May?

Given that Max averages 5 clearances a game (with plenty of games more than that) 2 clearances tonight and you pretty well have the difference right there.

Grundy was never going to hang around as a backup ruck, and we weren't going to be paying a first-call ruck salary to a backup ruck.

We lost centre clearance by 2. Considering who we had out there and who they had out there I'd just about take that as a win, on paper we should have been slaughtered. (Also only lost stoppages by 2.)

No it's not. Grundy had a huge contract, and with that in place there were always going to be very few takers, especially as he wanted to leave and we didn't want/need to keep him. We traded him for a second round pick, basically got that back. Big picture.

How many of those 9 are fully fit and firing? Langdon and ANB, perhaps Lever (but he's half the player without May) and Melksham, but that's about it.

One of the issues we have isn't just with playing the kids, but playing them in an environment where they're not adequately supported. Losing Salem down back - he's been on of the leaders over the last couple of years - plus a down-on-form Viney and Oliver, and add to that the absence of on-field leaders like Petracca and Brayshaw, just leaves them too exposed.

Critiques of Tholstrup are ridiculous. He's a first year player having a crack. It will come with a bit more experience and a calmer head.

A few positives from tonight. Thought Rivers gradually worked his way into it, but as someone said earlier, too much for him to carry it by himself. Also thought it was Bowey's best game for the year. Also Turner - blown out of it when he first came on, but got better as the game wore on. Same to some extent for AMW, felt he improved as the game wore on and was far from our worst.

Unsurprising result. So many players should hardly even be out there through injury and what not. Will be interesting to get to the end of season and see how many get sent in for surgery. Great to see players like Tholstrup getting a taste of midfield, but run up against a team of A-graders in Bont, Libba, Treloar etc. results were predictable. Sure, play the kids, but don't expect to win too many matches, especially against in-form sides.

McDonald forward is the right move. Provides mobility that none of the others do, and we were getting nothing from Petty - who would be better down back in the absence of may.

Viney 5 possessions. Carrying something. Add that to May and Gawn ... walking wounded, and we were already undermanned.

Not sure it's on McQualter, they're experienced players.

Ridiculous and superficial. How many of those 14 are fit and in form? Would be lucky if it was half of them. Gawn, Viney, Oliver, Petty, Bowey all well under where they were in that premiership.

Ah, Brayshaw, Oliver, Petracca and Viney when they were together and on song. Memories.

Amongst all the other outs, missing Windsor. Provides so much drive through that wing and is a key link between the backs and forwards.

Oliver a shadow of himself. Sad to see, end of the season can't come soon enough for him.

Bulldogs look very very good. Will go deep into finals if they keep playing like this, strong all over the ground.

Also last season.

Yes, playing week in week out directly affects your fitness. It goes backwards. But heh, if you think for one minute that your argument has any validity, put up some documentation to support it. Bizarre.

You can feel and like to think all you want but sports science is just that, a science, and all of this is measurable. Maybe do some reading, plenty of documentation out there.

With a statement like that, you clearly don't.

4 goals at the end of the last quarter against a top 4 side desperate to win was herculean.

This x 1000. And ... it will only get worse as the season gets longer. And a couple of others with compromised pre-season/season where it's not as pronounced but is still having an impact. Bowey for one.

I really don't understand comments like this. It was always obvious that losing Brayshaw and Petracca was going to cost us the season, add to that an unfit Oliver who can hardly even get through games yet alone have an impact. Yet people are surprised and calling for heads to roll? It is what it is. Why can't people put on their big boy/girl pants and deal with it?