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Not so sure. I accidentally watched the last quarter of the 21 GF when it came up on a feed, and there's a LOT of get ball bomb ball I50 from the usual suspects. Huge difference is what happened after that, with Brown and McDonald being able to either mark or make a contest of it, letting the others get to work. From what I can see, the Yze approach added another string to the bow, I don't think it was a whole new bow. Could be wrong.

I don't think we do. Also, no point being good if you're being asked to play a game style that you're not good at. Key position forward situation is beyond chronic, we have no-one reliable, no-one even experienced. And it's not just that no-one can take a mark I50, it's as much that no-one can even make a contest - so the ball just ping pongs out again.

McVee and Jeffo available - but no VFL games. Tholstrup not listed, so presume he's available as well. Edit: My mistake, there are VFL games for Casey. Thanks to Distraction Jackson for calling me out.

Correlation is not causation. https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

Buckley proposed an alternative reading of what they were trying to do: basically, move the ball as quickly as possible, eliminate/bypass the intermediate handball. Not saying it's working for the moment, but there are always 2 sides. At least.

And AFL 360. For Lyon, it's all about what's going on I50. "5th best in the comp for moving the ball from D50 to I50, but then 3rd worst for scoring."

Speaking of On The Couch, some damning footage of Jack Viney letting his man (Menzie) run in for a receive, which then led to a mark and goal. Painful to see.

Depends what they're being instructed to do. Also, Bucks countered the "handball to a free player" with "if you can get it inside 50 it's for you to do it, rather than taking the extra disposal". You can understand the latter as an instruction in the interests of rapid ball movement. No, it's not working, but you can see why they might try to go there. BTW, hard to see how what Lewis said backed up "has zero strategy and zero recognition of suggestions". Lewis was speaking about strategies that Yze was putting in place, i.e., Yze was making suggestions and being empowered to run with them.

Darren Shand: “My perspective of looking at the Dees was the world was saying they were falling apart. It was basically one plus one equals three. That wasn’t my experience at all. There was a couple of separate issues, but very solvable. The world just said, ‘The club is falling apart’. Yeah, the results weren’t great, but I still felt inside their environment a lot of the systems and structures were really good, a lot of the people are really good, the ambition was good." Why the man who conducted Melbou...Why the man who conducted Melbourne review has a very dif...The long-time All Blacks manager was involved.

Apart from the fact that you're already assuming the outcome of such a review ... we just did one.

There's equally an argument that if Goodwin goes players who are close to him will be more inclined to leave. And it seems that a lot of the players are close to Goodwin. As for wanting this performance rot to end immediately, I admire you for believing in miracles. Unfortunately ...

Not crazy at all. No home base, no CEO, no President. Goes right through the club. And will have a negative impact on our ability to attract new players.

Don't disagree entirely with what you're saying. But my point was that some of the players are very close to Goodwin (including Kozzie), and if Simon goes these players may see it as a time to move on as well.

We are not going to see significant improvement in 4 weeks. If it was possible to turn clubs around in that kind of time frame we wouldn't have the Norths and WCE's and Richmonds bumping along the bottom year after year. Hawthorn is now flavour of the month (kind of ...), but they floated around the lower reaches of the ladder for most of 7 years, even with plenty of great/good players on their list and supposedly very good coaches. Over 4 weeks we might see marginal improvement and insights into where we could get to, but more than that ... I'd be surprised. The only way we'll see significant improvement is by making changes to the list that have a significant impact. Trouble for us though is that to do that we'll need to let players go to generate draft/pick capital and free up cap space, so it's 2 steps forwards 2 steps back.

This. Can't be emphasised enough. And if we sack the coach it'll become even more true. Not having a CEO isn't helping either.

People have to stop believing in the tooth fairy. There is no circuit breaker, there is no knight in shining armour. Going to be a rough ride, buckle up. Go Dees.

Given that Griffiths was hand-picked by Burgess as his successor and then had a year under his wing to learn the ropes, they did and they are. (I know that's not the answer you were looking for.) It's not fitness, not in a physiological sense anyway. Psychological having an impact on physical performance is something else. You're always less fit when you're losing and vice versa.

Also loss of Gus (especially) and ANB. Add to that loss of Lever on-field.

Fox SportsDees’ ex-CEO opens up on moment he knew Simon Goodwin was...Melbourne’s ex-CEO knew Goodwin was ‘the one’. It led to a ‘what the f**k’ moment

Peter Jackson who appointed Goodwin? That Peter Jackson?

Mark Bickley: “If things were really easy to fix, smart people like Simon Goodwin would fix them but they are clearly not easy. What I saw last night was Christian Petracca down on confidence. There were times he went to put the foot down, but he just got caught, he doesn’t have that explosiveness that perhaps he once had. (Jack) Viney wasn’t impactful at all, Max Gawn didn’t look like the player he’s been to be an eight-time All Australian, so whether they’ve shouldered a fair bit of the load for a long time. Is that now? Is that the psychological burden that they’ve carried for the last three or four years where they’ve tried to get themselves out of this hole? What I do see is a team that looks like they are burdened with something. How do you release that burden? That’s the challenge I’m sure Simon Goodwin is talking to his assistant coaches about."

Ox on SEN: “It’s not a Simon Goodwin thing, and I don’t care what you say, it’s not about the coach. By all accounts, the players are playing for him. I think it’s a holistic part with the club, where the club have just got a lot of things wrong over the last 12 months and its playing catch up with them now. It starts with culture, and it starts from the top down. We know that Melbourne have had massive problems with their board. They were in a legal dispute for many years… they’ve got no CEO, they’ve had all new line coaches, so all the players are dealing with new coaches. That is some sort of adjustment. They are professional players, but they have got a lot wrong over the last couple of years and its now coming to smack them.” "Groundhog Day": Where to now fo..."Groundhog Day": Where to now for the winless Dees?"My advice would be to find out who wants to be there."

Of course we do. We need another one, and then another one, until we get a result that matches our agenda. Confirmation bias on steroids.

We just had an independent review of the football department, and have apparently implemented its recommendations.

Don't disagree with all you're saying, though there's some serious cherry-picking going on there. But this for me is the crux of it and a point I'd disagree with. Our list has massive holes in it. Massive. And until that's addressed, the rest is just window dressing and deck-chair-moving.