Dr. Gonzo

Exactly - the way we were dissected in the Prelim as well as against Richmond, Hawthorn and Collingwood earlier in the year should've been enough to warrant a review. I said at the time (at the beginning of the Goodwin thread) that he needed help with a better team if assistants around him. 30 months on and we still have Plapp, Chaplin, Rooke and Egan not to mention Mahoney in key roles despite little evidence to indicate they are actually good at their roles! And that's without even mentioning the lack of a forward coach.

That's good news but a year too late! The external review should've happened last year (or at the end of 2018 some would say!)

Who will our kickouts go to????

Anyone want to PM me the article?

Most of the examples you've raised above are attributable to Josh Mahoney not Jason Taylor

Would rather Sam Mitchell but seems he's Hawks coach in waiting.

How did that work out for him tonight?

It's all well and good to say put Brayshaw in the centre and play Harmes as a tagger but they were in those positions when Petracca was playing limited midfield minutes and Viney was injured. Viney, Petracca and Oliver are our starting mids, you need to shift them out of the centre if you want to give Brayshaw and Harmes more midfield minutes and Brayshaw and Harmes at not as good as any if those three. Perhaps Viney could go forward but then we lose the drive he gives us like he did in the final quarter vs Lions. Perhaps Oliver could go forward but he has never been a proven goalkicker. If Brayshaw/Harmes can't play wing or either half-back/forward then they are nothing but depth and really surplus to requirements.

If you went into the game expecting that performance I can't help you.

Haha I messaged my dad this morning saying why the hell did you make me support this ****house [censored] club I envisioned my kids sending a similar message to me in 30 years time

Collingwood had Pendlebury, Sidebottom, De Goey and Howe out against the Eagles. We had our best team in last night. It was unacceptable and only sustained performance over the course of a season and then multiple seasons will win back the trust of supporters.

We will not beat North. They play with heart.

The next 2 weeks prove nothing. They need to win both games comfortably and that won't be enough to win back the trust of supporters. That can only be gained by multiple YEARS of consistent performances. Until then it's same old Melbourne

You mean like when Collingwood poached Malthouse from the Eagles?

I though he said "beat a team that's on top of the ladder" The point is they can execute basic fundamentals, they just have to do it every week not just when they feel like it

Lockhart is not getting dropped. He is one of the few that had a crack tonight.

Where is the coaching and development? Oliver came in with heaps of promise but hasn't improved and had gone backwards if anything. Brayshaw has not improved since coming to the club. Weideman hasn't improved other than natural development that comes with a more mature body. TMac never developed beyond the raw athleticism he had before his foot injury. Salem showed promise early and has not improved, no development since his first game against the Swans. Petracca and Gawn are the only two players on our list who can honestly say they've taken their game to another level in the last 5 years. Maybe Viney as well. Jones developed earlier on in his career. The evidence suggests that unless the players have the inner drive or footy IQ to develop off their own bat the club will not help them get there. It's an utter indictment on the culture of the club.

He's Watts without the talent. NQR.

Where was the May interview? Channel 7? I had it on kayo and didn't see it May did a good job on Dixon but I thought he was poor tonight as well. His disposal was shocking, so many turnovers and out on the full.

Did you expect us to lose by 10 goals? Did you expect us to kick 1 goal in almost 3 quarters?

Surely the Lions game was burning in them over the last 4 days? It was burning in the supporters. I would've expected the players to be chomping at the bit to get back out there and make amends for Sunday's loss. Port only had an extra days break and had to travel. I think we're letting the players/coaches/club off the hook for another [censored] poor performance

Only problem with that - it lets the players completely off the hook and we end up with the tail wagging the dog all over again. At this stage I'd rather ship off the likes of Brayshaw, TMac and Fritsch than sack the coach again.

I was born in the early 80s. As a kid watching the Demons was enjoyable, we made finals most years. Since 1994 I've enjoyed precisely 5 seasons of football. I always have faith that we'll be good one day, but when I read of people having watched for 50 years with the same results it makes me feel I'll. I couldn't handle another 20 plus years of this rubbish. My kids are 7 and 4 I swear they think I'm insane. Poor guys don't know what the hell they've been born into.

I hear ya. I'm looking forward to watching the Jets in the NFL Ah crap ?

If we weren't the original club we would've been dead years ago.