Adam The God

Why? I don't want the club showing their hand. Downright dumb. 'Hey, rest of league, here's our plan for next year.' Why do some supporters think the club owes them a response at every turn? And don't give me the 'I'm a paid up member' claptrap. It's dumb. And the club should STFU and get on with trying to win premierships, not spend their time placating neggy nuffies who [censored] the bed every time something doesn't go perfectly.

Haha, I know, sorry 🤣

I don't disagree entirely, however, Collingwood were gifted the best player in the draft via F/S during that time, Bobby Hill was seen as inconsistent and had never really got going. Had a good season and a superb finals campaign. McStay is just a goer and didn't even play in the GF, and struggled to get on the park this year, managing 14 of 26 games. There's no reason McAdam can't have an impact as big as either of Hill or McStay. As for the Lions, they too were handed one of the best players in the draft via F/S and landed Dunkley who no doubt improved their midfield. But again, there's no reason whoever we take with our first pick this draft couldn't equally improve us structurally, like Dunkley has for Brisbane.

So the second flag wasn't about their ability to back themselves in and keep Judd. It was that they happened to maximise value for him after one flag.

They got one premiership out of Judd, Cousins, Kerr, Cox etc.

Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home.

I think we'll be able to find a spot for him in our forward half just quietly. McVee May Lever Salem Tomlinson Rivers Langdon Oliver Hunter Petracca Petty Fritsch Pickett JVR Reid Gawn Viney Sparrow Brayshaw Neal-Bullen McAdam Bowey Smith or Howes for sub. Chandler misses out.

Surely not. Unprecedented at the very least.

I think it was a joke mate. Unless you're joking too? Well, yeah, but most teams would know who's taking who.

Agreed, we won't get or want Darling.

And if this is true, there you go. This is precisely what I'm talking about. This'll be interesting. It's not like West Coast can sell a fast turnaround. They're a basketcase.

Sure, I'd take Reid, but he's a Victorian and we're a Melbourne based team. Conversely, there's Curtin who is said to be a ripper, who is a local lad. If there's any doubt internally at WC about Reid's desire to return to Victoria, that may factor into decision making here. I'm entirely speculating here, but I think that's one of the reasons I think we started rumours of Reid not wanting to go west. It's limited leverage, but implants a concern / variable in the minds of WC recruiters that must be considered.

Because, as I wrote, it'll be pick 1, 2 or 3 next year in all probability. That means, there's nothing to fall back on with a poor season. I don't see that as a responsible list management strategy. I've been wrong before though...

Agree that it most likely stays with WC, but based on your analysis, I'd say the second most likely destination of pick 1 is us. I think you're right in saying North won't want to trade a F1 (1/2/3 in 2024) and I don't think they'll trade both 2 and 3 either, so their best offer will be 2 or 3 + 15. Whereas, our best offer could well be 6 + 11 + F1 (18 😉 ), and WC could still pick up Curtin at 6 with no go home factor, whilst getting another potentially good player with 11. If pick 1 is traded, I can only see us getting it.

My old man says watch this space on Darling, haha, so here comes Darling.

It's probably a moot point anyway isn't it, as we agree that Rivers won't be traded.

If they think they can get Curtin with 6, and they get Rivers for 'free', then yep. Curtin going at 6 is the only way I see us being able to tempt West Coast anyway, unless of course it was JVR and 6 + 11 or whatever.

I reckon 6 and Rivers would do the trick. But it won't happen.

Agreed, but the post I responded to made it sound like Petty wanted to go back to Adelaide. The only public information we have is that Goodwin spoke to him and he's happy to stay. We've also had posts on this thread claiming he has no desire to leave and is happy at Melbourne. There's no doubt he listened to Adelaide's huge offer, but that's it at this stage.

Has he?

Kicks to advantage every time too. At least some of his family are mad Melbourne.

Would 6 + 10 + 14 do it? That way we can keep 11 and get up with our F1 to nab O'Sullivan and finish with Reid, O'Sullivan and Darling. Dream scenario. Maybe too dreamy.

So do I. I really like JVRs progress, but if we could improve our broader list by trading him, it wouldn't be off the table for me. Particularly, if there's any hesitation in signing long term.

Problem is the game moves quickly and could just as equally be about bigger bodied, slower players that can win the contest in 2 years time. I generally like the look of Watson though, irrespective of height.

Yep, totally.