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My post is not based on their current form. It's based on how they played last year and how they have played for patches this year. They seem like a very individualistic side that when challenged enough easily fold. My point being really that all of the top teams thus far have been "challenged" in some way, and all have failed the test (Crows vs North and Melbourne, Geelong vs Essendon, Bulldogs vs Cats, GWS vs St Kilda). My post was in response to Jimbo saying they are above the rest. I'm highlighting that, no, they're not. And I feel they're overrated in a way other top teams aren't. I called it with Adelaide earlier this season before the Richmond game. I genuinely thought the Toiges would beat them because I felt the Crows were pushovers and hadn't been challenged. I was wrong about that game but right overall. Talk about injuries and whatnot is overdone because GWS are supposed to have the best depth in the league. The Bulldogs played through 2016 having to make 2-3 changes every week, and lost best 22 players for long stretches. I just refuse to make the mistake that any one team is well above the rest. My issue with GWS is that I feel they're a "good team" in ways that are different to what we've seen from premiership sides the past decade. Their team reads like the School Boy All-Stars and they're well drilled but I'm not buying that they're so far above the rest.

GWS is so overrated it's not funny. I am 100% certain they will not win the flag. They have a bunch of players, probably 5-6 in their best 22 that are looking for their next big contract home, be it Victoria, WA or SA. They are the very definition of "a team of champions but not a champion team". They are showboaters like the Cats only difference being they have zero to show for it. Nothing made me happier than seeing the Bulldogs beat them last year. And I can assure you that should they play a final on the MCG, they'll get buried, regardless of who they play.

This scenario is a carbon copy of the Hawks game. Going in against a long-term finalist who is having a "down" year, and that has bullied the club for 10 years. On our home turf. Outright favourites. We're coming off a big win, opposition coming off a big loss. Must win. No excuses.

Imo one moment we "turned the corner" was the second half of 2016. While we lost the last two games in very disappointing fashion, we still had a very strong second half of the season with a number of great wins. I'm actually confident that we'll finish 2017 stronger than we started. But playing "catch up" makes a huge difference and we can either be a Bulldogs and head into the bye on a high, or we can break even or lose the next few, be a Richmond, and fond ourselves clawing back to make up the numbers. Either way I think we're set for a strong second half despite the tougher fixture.

so who plays Overwatch and who do you main and why is Symmetra the cause of every loss, ever?

IMO the AFL should get together with other consortiums (not necessarily sports leagues) to purchase an Overwatch League license, and base it in Sydney or Melbourne. That's ultimately going to be the future of eSports, city-based teams in domestic and world leagues. It stands to be very lucrative for the AFL if it does it the right way. Buying a LoL team today, in Australia no less, is like racing F1 with a year 12 high school billy kart entry.

Well yeah but that's a rare exception. Rarely do we see teams like that, that are so far ahead of the pack. Even the Cats in 08 and Pies in 2011 weren't huge favourites despite similar records.

No team is ever really outright favourites. One team might start at $3 or $3.50 but they eventually close in $2 with last minute bets and the emotion of the day. IMO there's never a real "underdrog" or "favourite" on GF day.

Now do classical gas.

Make no mistake, a first-time poster on Demonland has more insight about Melbourne's injury list than Ox.

I've actually known 3 people, all very young, to have gotten testicular cancer. Good news is that the symptoms tend to appear early, which leads to high survival rate. Once it's caught and cut out (normally removing the [censored]) it rarely returns. One cancer with an extremely high survival rate. The organ hanging out of your body tends to make knowing something is wrong fairly easy. Although one mate had pains in his arm and lower leg for a few weeks. Went to the doctor and they diagnosed that...

Must have literally been diagnosed in the past few days.

I don't think Neeld was the cause of the problem, or really the primary fuel. He went in and acknowledged the same issues Roos did, and tried to change the team in the same way. Neeld took a lot of the issues caused by management and the CEO out on the playing group, so there was really no differentiation between the corporate structure and the playing group. Neeld may have falling into that. We all know who the real stains were. I thought Neeld was that "down before going up" point. After 2011, it seemed inevitable that we crash the way we did. It was important that more people be held to account, and I think the Neeld years will showed the club for what it truly was, and that was an amateur football club competing in a professional competition. Some of you may not see this, but if Neeld did one things, it's have the guts to come in and say the club and its standards were the pits. He was brought in to instil premiership-caliber standards, and that's exactly what he tried to do. He wasn't a great coach, but he wasn't wrong with what he wanted to do.

We're 3-0 wearing the white "clash" jumper, I believe? Round 1 vs 'Aints Round 6 vs Essendon Round 8 vs Crows We wore the traditional jumper for these away matches: Round 3 vs Geelong Round 5 vs Richmond

We *should* win all three but as we've seen, anyone can beat anyone. I suspect that by the end of the mid-season break, the top half will break away from the bottom half. We want to be established in the top 8-9 by then, top 10 if it's only one game difference as it is now. Winning the next three is pivotal. Walking away 6-5 at the halfway point is probably good, but once Gawn comes back we need to go on a tear.

Except for Essendon and Richmond

Losing next week stands to devalue this week's performance. We need to win when we're expected to in order to really "turn the corner". We seem to perform when no one expects us to.

I said it before they played Richmond and a few on here hounded me. Breath on them and they fold. GWS is not much different. They are a pack of individuals with stars in their eyes but they're not a great team.

Who do you think

Have we turned the corner?

Tyson, Petracca, Jones, Vince all lifted.

Tyson has gone forward 3 times for 3 goals.

Trac has lifted.

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