jnrmac

No it wasn't.

I'd really like those within our club or who have been at our club to shut the hell up. Move on.

About to tear into you and then realised '2007'. Sadly 5 years too late.

They are simply idiots in the media trying to fill a page or two. How blindingly obvious is it that MN wants players who will play the way he wants. He has evaluated the list and he is now moulding it to his own design. The media wouldn't have a clue whether Gysberts was doing what he was asked or otherwise. Ditto Martin and all the other de-listed players. I'm happy he's making his own changes and not listening to popular opinion. He doesn't seem to mind if he isn't popular. Results count.

That's good news..

Don't need this. Bring on Christmas Eve so the report can be released.....

http://www.afl.com.a...17/default.aspx The list is here for those that want to check out the list.... James Hawksley and Ben Warren are probably the only two you would look at but given what we have done so far I am guessing we will go straight to the draft....

Everyone needs defensive skills these days and he didn't have any. Nor Beemer. The tealeaves aren't too hard to read...

Some people have way too much time on their hands. Magic!

Good point about GWS being a forced seller. They had to get rid of Hogan and we were best placed to give them a good pick.

Get to know you and analysis session. Very light I'm told.

9 Players now gone from the 22 that 'represented the club' in Rd 19, 2011. They are Gys, Bate, Moloney (did not get a stat!), Rivers, Petterd, Martin, Maric, Jurrah, Green. Interestingly three of those players (Gys 11, Rivers 10 and Martin 10) were the only players to have 10 kicks or more Finally someone is ruthless. Go Dees. Go Neeld.

No Dawes is on a bigger contract at the Dees. We are paying it.

Bennell's gone. FInd a new one.

Exhibit A J Pod.

Definitely worth putting that in bold. Really emphasised your point.

Agreed

You can't. Dogs have delisted Sherman with one year to go.

You'd be kidding Mr 8 posts. Try market price. That's what we got. Don't know there were queues of clubs waiting outside the door of a club that has had the worst year since Fitzroy of 86 (excluding the expansion teams) looking for players that could't even get a regular game. Not sure what you're smoking there buddy.

Its when the family are doing the negotiations that things go haywire. Heard a story that CLoke's Mum rang Geoff Walsh and demanded that the filth up their offer. Believe it comes form a good source.

We have three undisputed top 10 players (altho 1 won't start until next year). No other club aside from GWS has that. (Assumption: pick 4 is a jet - Cale, I know I know) We have brought in hard bodied, experienced, competitive players - 3 with premiership experience. We have a speculative (arent they all?) mid second round pick in Dom Barry We have lost Moloney (meh), Rivers (could hurt), Green, Martin, Morton, Gysberts. Green has retired so doesnt count. Rivers might hurt but we have seen his best. The others we have lost nothing. All in all we have re-shaped our list completely and there is still delisted player draft to come.

What he said.

What a dumb thread.

We played finals in 2006? We were relevant then,

The alternative is this. We stuff around and hold out for a better deal. It doesn't get done and we get forced into paying pick 3 for Viney and maybe do the Byrnes deal. How is 2 or 3 minor deals change our fortunes next year. Natural improvement? Or do you think a swag of draft picks is going to turn us around?? (I think we have been there before..) Our club is in a dire position. Another year like 2012 and we would be really stuffed. We simply can't afford that and must start winning some games. Its mind numbingly clear we have young players but have few leaders and little experience. Now we have. Enjoy 2013 worrying about how Morton is doing at WCE or martin at Brisbane.