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Despicable umpiring in every final so far . At least 11 non-decisions against Collingwood in the final quarter alone Congrats Gil you have completely stuffed the comp. You can point to crowds as I am sure you would by die hard fans are over the umpire bias/incompetence and MRO

Wardlaw and Sheezel are already guns

Well he didn't play v Coll and had a good game v Carl - totally livened up our fwd line If you can't see the worth. of Spargo from the Carlton game nothing anyone here says can help you.

Every position is reviewed, from top to bottom along with players, game plan, strategies, list structure, salary cap. You name it. There probably isnt an organisation in the country that has more scrutiny than an AFL club.

Fairly obvious don't you think? They do one every year. Hardly likely to be public.

What a dumb thing to say

This is how the media narrative works. And its not just footy. 1. John Ralph makes unsubstantiated anonymous comments from 'senior officials' at melbourne 2.Fox prints comments in their online story 3.55 different commentators who are looking for content write a story or make comments about Melbourne 'whinging', whining' their 'fragile state' etc 4. It is set in stone that Melbourne are weak mentally, are fragile etc [insert adjective] 5. Campbell Brown is a Richard 6. Media narrative created 7. Who cares

If you are expecting Jefferson to step up and address our fwd line issues you will be severely disappointed.

He is the best guy out there. Serious player.

You cant overturn a goal on that. Nothing definitive whatsoever. No umprire called it. The ARC made its own decision. Its garbage

Bowey is good but he stuffed up big time in key moments against Carlton. He wasn't alone. Why can't we find more decent kickers?

It isn't good for your sanity but being at the game I am flummoxed as to how we let it slip.

none of the footage shown on the 7 telecast shows conclusively that it was touched. For them to overrule on that basis is unbelievable. Two games we have been dudded and 7 times Carlton have received the benefit of the review in the past 4 games. The AFL is corrupt to the core. Cripps didn't even have a concussion test until after the game. Nor did Weitering yet he was staggering around like a drunk

You have to got to be kidding. I have now heard everything. He is what he is. Not what you or the club thinks he should be. How hard is that to comprehend?

Watching the replay the umpiring is disgusting. Williamson no 22 is so one sided it's embarrassing for the afl

So did cripps. But he's a golden child so he cops nothing

So now if max goes down we will ruck with ????.?

This will be a complete whitewash Straight sets simon will say we did nearly everything right and just need more f******connection It will do my head in Our leaders failed when we were 9pts up with 3m left. What do they train for?

Grundy was dudded. He is what he is. Max can't play fwd because he can't kick for [censored]. Yet grundy was castigated because he can't take a contested mark. He would have been fired up to play Collingwood against their 2 rucks. And against carltons 2 rucks. Yet we went in with one injured ruck. Beggars belief We beat both Carlton and coll with 2 rucks in round 12 and 13.

Cripps tried to strong arm our players No penalties for the golden child

Well it worked - they got the Joel Smith mark reversed

I think this is a furphy. Its not talent There have been dozens of times we take the ball down the wing with 2 or 3 players open in the centre corridor. Our players don't even look there. There are clearly instructed to go down the line to a contest. I won't be convinced otherwise. Its infuriating Its the polar opposite of what we were doing in the pre season and early part of the season when we were the most accurate side in the comp. The other infuriating thing is speed. We consistently hold the ball up and wait for the players to get back. When we play on we are a much more damaging team. Jordon is among the worst but by no means alone. Again clearly to instruction. Boo

This has been my argument for bringing Grundy back in. We won't lose much at centre clearance and it will force oppositions to adjust. All year I thought Gawn would take the tap and go back to defence while Grundy would ruck around the ground but we never tried that. And I still reckon thommo could play as a defensive fwd. Goody it seems has to be pushed into making changes

You are probably right but I am trying to reconcile the freewheeling way we played in the pre-season and early rounds when we scored easily, cleanly and through the corridor. We tried doing that in the second half against coll and carlton We cut angles and kicked into the corridor and were the most accurate team in the comp up until about round 7. It was less predictable and way more open.

I have said numerous times our game plan is a) very taxing, b) keeps oppositions in the game and c) very predictable. Our fwd half issues are at least 5 years old and we have an old ruckman as our fwd coach. Really? The game plan to beat Melbourne us well known but most teams are unable to compete for longer. Its patently obvious that good teams can compete for long enough as the do in finals. We do about 90% right but the 10% sees us lose. We made some changes around the edges this year but its time to completely re-design how we play.