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The other was Caddy.

Another Dodo special. Essendon fans ought to be livid.

For those who believe Mahoney caves too easy and should take a harder stance, consider Adrian Dodoro at Essendon, who has not for the first time just failed to deliver a trade for a big name player who wanted to go there. Edit: I’m dumb, trade period not closed yet. Hopefully this turns out to still be true in a few hours ?

We’re over 10000 already mate.

As if we get Cerra. You don’t get club’s best young players tossed in for good measure. Bell won’t spend two weeks strutting only to do that.

I don’t think so sue. Cripps is from WA and there’s never been any noise about a return there. Simon Black from WA had a long and fruitful career in Brisbane. The AFL is littered with interstate players who settle in. Furthermore I believe this has been as much driven by the MFC as it was Hogan driven.

I was going to point out that you were delusional, but I see you already acknowledged it. ?

Mahoney’s MFC are not in the business of shifting the goalposts. That would be a one-way street to deal collapse.

FYI all, the official thread count including deleted posts is already at 400. The milestone is already reached.

Was it Essendon trying to trade for Josh Caddy a few years ago that ended up at arbitration and ended up falling through? It would be comedy gold if they couldn’t deliver on this either. But Adrian Dodo says they’re not hard to deal with.

That’s the rule, but it’s not the first time we’ve let bygones be bygones, there are a handful of posters active in this thread in the same boat. This incarnation is wearing pretty thin though, especially when he had the hide to tell Andy to make sure he was moderating fairly, given that rule and our generous application of it.

Outcome based trades. GWS outcome: salary cap dump. Hawthorn outcome: ?? This seems like an enormous risk for the Hawks to take. Their salary cap must already be tight without taking on one of the biggest contracts in the AFL. The risk of Scully not being the same after this injury seems material and compounds the issue. All this for a player who is very good but not great.

Not the dreaded 60s. Gee whiz, we might even take a player in the 70s.

If the conspiracy theory you’ve dreamed up makes you feel sick, maybe stop thinking about it for a little while?

@Mach5

You’d have turned down the $1m/annum, I suppose.

I’d say it tells you he was a 19 year old kid in an impossible position.

Unlike Peter Bell, Craig Cameron is an experienced and professional operator. Upon reading that I’m more confident than ever that MFC and GCS have prepared both a May/Kolodjashnij package deal and a Kolodjashnij only deal and are ready to execute either depending on what plays out with Freo re: Neale and Hogan.

Hopefully the clubs have agreed to both a “with May” and “without May” scenario and are just waiting for Freo to pull their finger out. It’s hard to believe a Kolodjashnij trade would be that hard to solve in isolation if it wasn’t tangled up with Neale/Hogan/May (refer Kent trade).

I’m confused about what’s confusing. Gist of post: pick 5 and 14, or 5 and 23 = not an enormous difference. Is that a bewildering proposition?

Yes, but you’re the one who keeps carping on about how his position is untenable now. If that’s true then it’s irrelevant whether what we get in return helps get May or not. You’ve been out-logicked(?) by WYL.

What?

Doubt it came from match committee. A million times more likely they’ve just stolen the idea from here.

14/23 is an immaterial difference anyway. It’s the same outcome: the ability to get May, and a draft pick in the range that gives us a reasonable chance to draft a good player. The chance of getting a good player does not reduce very much at all between 14 and 23. If the other pick was to be involved in an on-trade anyway, then it makes no difference at all if it was 14 or 23.

Yep. In the Mahoney/Viney/Taylor era we’ve seen two distinct strategies as well. Early in the Roos era it was all about finding cheap ready mades and otherwise trading our way up the draft, loading up on as many talented 18 year olds as possible. Now that those 18 year olds are now 21-22 and have formed a solid nucleus for the side, we seem to almost trade our way out of the draft to bring in the right support players to keep building the side. When looking back, I certainly can’t remember who we gave what draft pick or what we got back. I just remember that the likes of Oliver and Salem are on our list because these guys know what they are doing.