Nasher

The silver lining, if you can call it that, is that you wouldn't have been much better off at all if you'd backed the Saints.

1. No idea, just picked them as a kid. Had a brief stint as a Bummers supporter thanks to the brainwashing attempts of an uncle when I was 5 or 6 but eventually landed back with Melbourne. My parents barracked for other clubs and made no attempt at brainwashing. It was solidified when my older player started playing junior then senior footy with a club who also wore Melbourne colours and we went to watch them play every week. Seems hard to imagine being a Bummers fan now. Especially this week. I truly despise that footy club. 2. Greg Healy, because he had the same last name as my favourite cricketer, Ian Healy. Once I was old enough to actually get it, Stynes and Lyon because they were awesome, and the Febeys and Lovell because they were Tasmanian. 3. Finals in 2000, excl. the granny. 4. I remember watching a game in the 90s where we got hopelessly thrashed and bawling my eyes out. Can't remember who it was against or exactly when it was. Adult me reacts with anger or just mute frustration, but the inner feelings haven't changed one bit since I was 10. 5. I too use Demonland as my only avenue for mingling with other MFC fans. It's definitely been a lonely path, I hardly know any other MFC fans at all. There's one other bloke at work who I share a grin or cringe with depending on the result, who also occasionally posts on here. G'day "Monty"

People keep saying that, but I can't see how playing like poo and getting slammed by the fan base every week increases his trade value. When was the last time he even took a speccie? It also hurts the team with the way he's playing. It's just a little too conspiracy theory-ish for me.If Roos doesn't want to play him, just get Misson to give some vague story about a hamstring injury and leave it at that.

I don't take his frustration away from that, I take away your frustration and a polite dismissal.

Agree with all that mate. Don't want McDonald as a forward either, I want him to be the elite defender he can be. Can only argue with the points put forward, though

Before yesterday he had 4.5, then kicked for goal in the same way everyone else did: like crud. Too small a sample set with too much circumstancial evidence for mine. I also doubt he's done much goal kicking work since he's been groomed as a defender. It could be any issue that he has with goal kicking could be trained out.

Exactly 23, or 23 or more? He got 25 against Collingwood in 2010, and 23 against Brisbane in 2011. You're welcome Edit: Incidentally, in that draw against Collingwood, they kicked 9.22 to our 11.10. Days where sides miss a truckload of goals do happen sometimes.

He obviously had attributes that the recruiters liked - all players recruited do.

Wow, that's not even remotely close to what I said, at all. Mate, we were all pissed at what happened yesterday. I didn't say it was weak - you introduced that word, not me. I just think some people need to get a grip and not let what happens on the football take over everything. No sane MFC fan wouldn't be livid, spewing, ropable, gutted about what happened yesterday, it's natural, but it becomes your choice if you continue to stew on it. If it angers you so much that people around you find you intolerable, I think you (not Lamashtu you, but general you) are out of control. At the end of the day its your life and your perogative, but others are taking it to the point where they think the players should feel the same and therefore shouldn't go out for a beer afterwards. That's where it crosses the line from "your business" to "embarrassing". Believe me, I don't judge people for being pissed about it, or getting emotional about footy. I do too. I can't help it. But with a lot of training and self discipline, I have learned to get it under control after a pretty serious heart to heart with my family about it. It can be done.

You could have said the same about Heath Neville too though, Redleg. In the AFL if you're a bottom draft pick and can't get on the park for two years, you are almost never retained. You have to show at least a slither. He hadn't, now he has.

If he suddenly kicks on over the next few weeks, it makes list management more interesting. Was a certainty to be gone two weeks ago.

Here you go then, mate. Cheer up. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2015-06-22/rd-12-all-the-dees-goals

When you're watching through the red mist BBO, it's not going to look anything but the worst. And believe me, I'm not saying I'm super objective either, but if other members felt as utterly filthy as I did yesterday, nobody is going to be able to view this with a clear head. It's just a fact that emotions cloud your outlook. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves I reckon. It's why coaching would be a seriously hard gig - you have to be able to look past the emotion of it all.

At risk of doing a Curry & Beer / Stuie "Classic Demonland" - it really is classic Demonland. Beat Geelong at Geelong. Pencil us in to win every game except Freo. Lose to Essendon. That's it. Can't see how we're going to win another game all year. Someone wise said on this forum years ago (may have been Craig Cameron and oft repeated by old55?) that in footy, nothing is ever as good or as bad as it seems

Easy mistake to make.

Soft. I should change your name to "AngryAtHome" for the day.

I'd prefer we didn't start stuffing around with him. Flexibility is a good thing, but he's a young player still who needs to become elite in one position first. I don't want to end up with a player who is a little bit good at everything but not great at anything - ala Lynden Dunn until age 27. Permanent defender for mine, to be used in other positions only when times are desperate, like yesterday.

Jeez, things must have been dire. I felt really flat too and couldn't bring myself to face Demonland at all. Whether you let that affect the rest of your life is a choice, though.

Let the club worry about that. If they were knowingly jeopardising their recovery etc, I doubt they'd have been so pic happy anyway.

It's actually a bit embarrassing and shows the posters' great lack of awareness of their own weaknesses. They might as well be saying "I don't have the emotional control to function after a loss, so the players shouldn't either."

I didn't see the game, but just watched the footage of the standing ovation the Adelaide team got from the Perth crowd while walking off in tears, and it was the most powerful thing I've seen in footy for ages. It made the hair on my arms stand up.

I could really go a parma today. Mood food.

Tough crowd. First bad game of his career. He's a competitive lad, don't reckon anyone will be more filthy than himself. Nothing to see here.

7.18. Honestly. This club, somehow, finds new ways to disappoint me. Tom Mac in the last quarter though...

Ah, right. Wasn't aware of that - was lead to believe when I bought mine that there was no credit on it - I may have had my ears closed at the time though.