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Two men down for over a half - is there anything you would consider a valid excuse? Just wondering.

This kind of shite is why I want to self-ban after losses. I still may yet.

Gutted for Jake. Spends the whole year last year giving the VFL side a ride waiting for his go, hardly gets so much as a scratch. Finally gets his chance, second week in, injured. There is no justice sometimes.

Spencer shoulder. Frrrkkkk.

Great goal Garlett - runs straight to Oliver because it was him going head first through Richmond - twice - to get him the ball. Awesome stuff boys.

Nah Watts was.

I think it's pretty upside down logic to say we should have picked an extra tall, in the wet, because we might have an injury. If anything, the weather is an argument for going smaller. Tim Smith was picked for the role Pedersen might have played. He got injured. C'est la vie.

His skills are below par for sure, but "huge liability" is ridiculously over the top. We're winning this game because of midfield and half forward pressure, and he is a key ingredient to that. Unless you're arguing in favour of One Tackle Kent, it's not really that much of a wonder he's in the side.

The 6 tackles - leading the side yet again - have something to do with it. He's also had it 14 times and not all of those were woeful. But as usual, all we can remember is the last kick.

Fuck yeah Hibberd! What a gun. Have been hoping to see him drill one like that all game.

"Role player". He's an average user of the ball which is being exacerbated by the wet. Has been good up until this week.

Before the Watts goal we had more inside 50s than points on the board. We are utterly pantsing them around the ball. Need to figure out how to score.

Michael Hibberd looks like he hasn't missed a game. Sharp as a tack. So far I'm a fan!

Anyone have Tom McDonald for first MFC goal? LOL

Stay off Demonland until Friday.

Correct. Seen this movie before.

You are adding nothing to this topic. Knock it off.

I don't think he's a spud. Players who make 50 or more AFL games have to have done so because they add something to their team. You wouldn't make it that far otherwise. I don't see the world in black and white. But your "we win more games" stat is just silly. For a start, it hardly showed a huge difference - what was it, 25% vs 26%? As they say correlation doesn't mean causation. I just don't know how you can conclude anything with that statistic. There's no link between the stat and Pedersen playing, it's just a co-incidence. How about a "Games in AFL" vs "Games in VFL" ratio? Not an easy stat to get but the fact that he's spent a significant portion of the last two seasons in the VFL is indicative of his standing amongst his coaching group.

To be clear, I wasn't implying that there was any merit whatsoever in the assertion that Kent had cracked the sads - I agree it's probably BS. Just arguing the point that if he had cracked the sads, I didn't agree with the "who could blame him" call.

You have to be taking the p*** with that stat, surely.

He became redundant in the ruck as soon as Watts lined up at a centre bounce. Watts adds the same amount in the ruck (not much) and makes a much better midfielder. I'd actually argue he became redundant full stop when Watts lined up at a centre bounce. Pedersen's career stats since Watts took over in the ruck in round 9 last year: 2 games for 3 hitouts.

Hah, but no, this was Dion Scott - a fairly modest CHF/Ruckman from Tassie that played for the Bears in the 90s.

According to Demonwiki, he had the peak ripped off by Dion Scott and the rest of it ripped in half by Matthew Kennedy. Who did those hacks think they were, touching a gentleman's hat? I've got to admit - all aspects of that story sound hilarious.

While I hate it when old mate refuses to accept any criticism of the club at all, I can understand why people will often shrug their shoulders and defer when it comes to matters of selection and the like. The OP in this thread might as well have said "Goodwin is an idiot for not selecting Pedersen", when it's obvious from the outside that we cannot and will not ever have as deep an understanding of the inner machinations of the team as Goodwin will. People don't understand that from our position in the stands or on the couch, we don't know what we don't know. I get that it's a discussion forum, but it irritates me when posters carry on as if they're the expert.

Or it may be it's because he's chosen to have long hair intentionally. I know that may come as a shock to some.