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  1. It becomes another 'dot' It would add weight . Might make someone more inclined to be 'comfortable"
  2. The AFL can submit all it likes. The AFL will have no real say in the outcomes or penalties. Must be very unsettling for Gil the Dill to feel so emasculated
  3. Lets have a look at how the facts and truths are manipulated. Unfortunately such re-workings are only too readily swallowed by the unwashed: For the purposes of clear comprehension and review. the entire article form here is utilised. Now as a pretext it's relevant to understand just who Richard Ings is. He was the former head of ASADA from it's inception. He has had his nose well and truly out of joint since the Gov yanked him out questioning his suitability for this role. read here He's been a bit bitter and twisted ever since and loves to insert himself in the dialogue at every opportunity. These days a 'mouth for rent " type '"expert" ɛkspəːt Has been drip under pressure Ol' Richard would best be served with a box of Bex and a good long lay down !!.. anyhow we continue "FORMER anti-doping boss Richard Ings expects WADA will need to produce “something new and different” to win its appeal against a group of Essendon players." Here Richard shows classically as to his unsuitability for his previous role. He has little understanding. Nothing New nor Different need be required. A fresh hearing is ALL that is required. Don't be too surprised though when new/more corroborating( damning ) evidence IS produced "The drawn-out Essendon supplements saga reaches another milestone next week when the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) hears WADA’s appeal against a landmark AFL anti-doping tribunal verdict in a closed hearing. In March, that AFL tribunal cleared 34 current and past Essendon players of anti-doping charges." Remind me again...who's been dragging this out ?? The AFL Tribunal did NOT clear anyone. They could not to a comfortable satisfaction come to the same conclusion ASADA had. Nice the way the article bends the truth. "Prominent American anti-doping lawyer Richard Young is said to be leading WADA’s appeal, which is scheduled to run for five days from next Monday in Sydney." Very important in propaganda to actually interweave some simple facts, as long as they don't prejudice your agenda (s) “A highly-esteemed panel of arbitrators (the AFL anti-doping tribunal) have reviewed all the evidence and found that the players did not have a case to answer,” Ings told AAP. Ah yes..the 3 wise ones. Hand picked by the AFL to ensure they 'reviewed" things in that time honoured way...as though in a court !!.Thats their experience. Heard of loading a Jury...well here we ( AFL ) loaded the bench !! “WADA will have to produce something new and different to convince a group of CAS arbitrators if they hope for a different outcome.” Again Ings repeating his poorly constructed logic. Very important to repeat such things...it adds to the gravity of the idea "It is understood less than half the 34 players will be at AFL clubs next season." Again , lets state something bleedingly obvious as though this also helps paint the diatribe as factual ( as opposed facetious !! ) "The appeal is the latest instalment in the mess that started in early February 2013, when Essendon announced they were coming under a joint AFL-ASADA investigation." Again, who created this mess ?? "The saga is a result of the Bombers’ 2011-12 supplements program, with the players insisting they did nothing wrong." Cleverly doesn't come forward with the idea it's been the EFC, Hird , Dank etc etc who have been doing the bulk of the denying !! "It has caused Essendon severe damage and brought about the downfalls of several prominent figures at the club, including coach James Hird." I'm sure I don't have to spell out just how disingenuous this line is. "The AFL and ASADA have also not escaped unscathed, with ongoing commentary about the investigation and how it was run." Its funny when you consider where this 'commentary" originates "While there is also speculation about various legal actions that might stem from the scandal, the CAS hearing is the last step of the official anti-doping disciplinary process. Whoever loses the appeal cannot take the matter further." A little bit of actual journalism...who'd da thunk !! "Even if WADA wins the appeal, the Essendon players might only receive a token ban." Ummm..yeah.....NAH !!! No precedent what soever...pure BS. A seed being sown to garner public sympathies etc "Given they have already served provisional suspensions and the matter has been going for so long, any punishment could be backdated heavily." Loose with the facts again. Only ONE voluntary suspension undertake and will be considered. Backdating has been officially taken off the scope. More deliberate misrepresentation to further the Essendon cause no doubt But Ings, the former ASADA chief executive, is not sure about Essendon’s hope that the CAS verdict might be known by Christmas. you had me at "Ings is not sure !!" "He said the CAS can deliver a verdict in a short time frame if there is a pressing matter - such as an athlete competing at the Olympics. “Here, there’s really no pressing time frame,” he said. “The players aren’t suspended, they’re free to keep on playing." Sneaky sneaky....plain undiluted realities.....so ? “Is it possible to get it done before Christmas? I would think that would be very unlikely.” He added the same provision that applied for the AFL anti-doping tribunal - comfortable satisfaction that the players had breached anti-doping rules - would be the test for this appeal." Yes, we know this. What is left out is how that comfortable satisfaction is applied and by who and the relevant experience of those NOW hearing it. Also..The people now listening aren't being paid by the people instigating it ! "And it will be a totally new hearing, with WADA and the players able to produce fresh evidence." yep "“A decision was made at a tribunal and WADA wants to take that decision ... to the next level of arbitration and have them review everything all over again,” Ings said." This Ings fellow...pretty switched on eh !! “So what you have taking place next week is a brand-new hearing.” It took the whole article to arrive at one of the few relevant facts. Amazing stuff So in finishing ...the recipe. Take a handful of actual facts, throw in tainted suppositions , stir with 'sleight of had' deceit and voila = Fanboy propaganda !! easy peasy
  4. tic toc tic toc tic toc
  5. yes hasn't gone unnoticed. .lolTypical propaganda lol Ings either being misquoted ( which i doubt...hes just sour ) Hun running with usual rubbish. Total misrepresentation on the reality. Don't actually need new evidence ( though it'll be presented) just need ears not preset to equital. Go CAS you good thing.
  6. maybe maybe not ..but combines are useless...window dressing
  7. Shame he wa....
  8. Call me old fashioned. .combine tests where the GIVE you the ball is next to useless in adjudicating a mid surely. Their job is to GET it. Parish can.Combines are fluff
  9. what am i missing..
  10. There are some Princesses here
  11. ...aye and theres the rub. Which is why id still get a mid at 7 as we will see him in at worst '17 where as a kiddue kpp fwd wont be worth much more than chop liver until '18/'19....unless you're JH ver 2.01 and ive heard none mentioned in despatches. In that same time frame youd be able to find a rtg kinda guy to do support id have thought. Just mho of course.
  12. Milera ahead of Parish ?The Quayle possibly risks being a goose.
  13. MMeawhile in the world of Football all await the day of Judgement
  14. I have distant memories of talking footy here once. Might grab a Banana smoothie and reminisce.
  15. Strangely Stuie Ill agree with most of this in as much as you cant discuss something you know nothing or little about.Years ago I actually read the Quran. Came away thinking theres a lot of books in the wrong part of the Library !! For the most part it, Quran, is just anothers viewpoint and interpretation of belief and surrendering to a religions directive. There are fanatics from many beliefs. The current lot of Sharia inspired loonies is todays winner of mentally vacant despots. The Spanish inquisition says hi
  16. Stuie... when these extremists start their murderous exploits with 'Allahu akbar " are we supposed to be in any doubt as to which version of religious dogma they're invoking ?My previous point suggested a Jew would not indulge pork nor celebrate Christmas as thats not their belief. To do so would violate their ideals. An Islamic extremist going nuts is not necessarily doing the same . For they believe they are taking the Quran (or passages thereof ( to their inevitable destiny.i.e Not contradicting it...but enacting it. A fundamental difference I would have thought.
  17. and on the seventh day......
  18. Thats like saying Jew bought some Pork to have for Christmas.Neither is plausible as its fundamentally opposite to the core beliefs held. A vegetarian who eats meat is simply enlightened
  19. Just as clarity though. A Catholic who is radical/extreme is surely a Catholic extremist for he is no other. A Muslim who is radical/extreme must also by such distinct association be an Islamic extremist. Not saying either necessarily represents either's mainstream following for again , extremist by definition is one taking it to another level but they are of those respective religious following. Just saying.
  20. suicide bombers seem to have a particular favourite though eh
  21. Funny...hadn't seen your post before i did.Great minds.....
  22. It aint broke Don't fix it !!
  23. cant do it soon enough for mine. A dank soulless place if ever existed
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