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it's just bizarre, isn't it hogan keeps getting talked down and ryan burton keeps getting talked up; meanwhile hawks are giving up a pick in the mid-50s for $cully i find the whole thing such a net loss as far as i'm concerned, the bigger winner out of the trade - neale / hogan / may / pick 5 - is freo, as they get hogan when it comes to transcendent talents, he's the standout of the three existing players

It’s all being set up for the live telecast on Wednesday All deals will have been signed off and will simply be ratified on the live telecast Whole thing is so tedious

Couldn’t think of a more appropriate club for him to join tbh

on what planet is watson 'more respected than langdon, nixon, and others?' he swims in the same sewers as them

me either @GCDee but it seems that this is where it sits from my perspective i wanted 5 and 6 for hogan instead we're losing him for...not a great deal

i'm guessing the deals essentially hinge on beams trade happening my guesses are: - beams and 2018 third round pick to pies for 2018 first rounder (currently pick 18) and future first - 5 and pick 18 from bears to freo for neale - 5 and pick 23 to melbourne for hogan - 5 to crows for 8 and 13 - 8 and future third to gc17 for may and kk - may and kk for pick 5, future 3rd rounder net results: - pies get beams and the filth's 2018 third rounder - bears get neale and pies' future first - freo get hogan, pick 18 - crows get pick 5 - gc17 get 8 and mfc's future third - melbourne get may, kk, pick 13 and pick 23

don't believe everything you read on toot toot's twitter

hogan was named at chb in the 2012 u/18 all oz, but he played forward for wa and was dominant in several matches he's an absolute jet and i for one hope we don't lose him

this the only caveat i'd add is that speedy wingmen / ball-carriers like gaff, polec, jj, etc. just became worth their weight in gold

hawthorn just continue to add talent whilst seemingly giving up very, very little

our forward line has the capacity to be pretty tall HF: Hogan - T Mac - Petracca F: Preuss - Weideman - Melksham then ANB, AVB, Hannan, Spargo rotating through as 'smalls'

i read it, and agreed with it tl;dr: jesse, his management, and mfc have been respectful to one another, mfc was only going to let jesse go if it facilitated bringing may in, but peter bell has acted like a little napoleon and stuffed up what should have been an easily done deal basically on his first week on the job what's more, it's set an absolutely awful precedent for his tenure in his FIRST WEEK on the job - now fremantle are going to be perceived as difficult to work with by the vast majority of the afl industry, and treated like a pariah accordingly it's a monumental [censored] up from now the plan is: - win the premiership with jesse starring all year long - sign him up midyear after a massive victory against freo over there - get may as a free agent at the end of next year what's the bet freo fans boo him when he lines up against them at their home ground next year?

freo are a joke of a football club

mahoney good on that update - sounds as fed up with freo's bs as everyone on this board

shame to see him go, but happy he gets another deal at another club

we shall see how it plays out

it's a terrible tactical offer in my view dodoro had a reputation as a difficult negotiator, but this takes it to another level hopefully unlike gc17 we aren't absolute gumbies

awful trade

hahahahahahahaahaha

is that for real? absolutely no deal from my perspective

if we give up pick 5 as part of the may deal i will be ropeable unless we get something SIGNIFICANT back i know it's just my mfcss speaking, but i feel like we are about to be absolutely bent over and pillaged

so presumably now: neale goes to bears 5, may and kk go to melbourne for hogan 10 and future 2nd from melbourne goes to gc17 11 goes to gw$ for lobb and freo get hogan and lobb?

not from my understanding at clubs that are neither melbourne or freo - board have to approve actual pay packets over a certain level

could be as many as seven teams involved... brisbane - neale in for beams plus picks movement collingwood - beams in for langdon plus picks movement fremantle - hogan in for may plus picks movement gc17 - may out plus picks movement melbourne - hogan out for may (and kk?) plus picks movement st. kilda - hannebery in plus picks movement sydney - langdon in for hannebery plus picks movement

Boards generally have to approve final pay packets for players over a certain wage