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How did everyone's first preseason game go? Not so great for the Niners. Had a win but also had about 5 injuries

RIP good fella

The feeling I got was the same. Can't quite put my finger on it but I just feel like they would have acted the same way if Hamish wasn't at West Coast. The fact that Mark came out and said what he did this early when the family could have stayed silent. Having said that I do see the point of view that they had to think of Hamish's position as well. An 18 y.o kid in his first year at a footy club, it wouldn't have put him in the best spot if this wasn't handled very delicately.

A push, a shove, a bump any of these would have been a much better alternative. A strike with such force to the intended chest area does seem baffling. Huge mistake but I'm sure he knows it by now.

I'm glad Mark came out and said what he did. It was a massive hellstorm and really needed a call for calm. Good on him.

A lot of people here seem to still want Gaff at MFC. And that’s cool. I’m however just feeling a bit uneasy about it right now. I’m sure that will change in time and by the end of the season I’ll probably want him again but I just think about the ramifications this could have on Gaff’s state of mind in the game, how Gus would feel if he were brought into the fold and also the media circus that might gather round our club. I’ve been so happy to not be involved in too many of those lately and kind of want to keep it that way. Happy to admit I might be overreacting here and like I said I might have a different view in a few weeks but his is just how I feel right now. Sorry if it’s not popular

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I have the utmost respect for the guy, when Leigh speaks I listen. But I was pretty put out by what he said about this to be frank. Saying that this will have a longer term effect on Gaff than it will Brayshaw is just plain ignorant in my opinion. You can't be making that comment if you have not been in the victim's position, not to mention when the victim has had his face re-arranged and might never be the same. He could have all sorts of long term mental effects in future that Leigh would have no idea about. I respect him showing sympathy for Gaff in this tough time but few know what Brayshaw is going through.

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Of course North will get the mention. Them and their massive ‘war chest’

I really can’t see the connection here. I’m assuming I’m one of the other posters who ‘condoned’ this and if not then I apologise. Since when is questioning motive suddenly condoning this behaviour? I’ve heard 3 people in the media tonight say the same thing in that he probably didn’t mean to have the impact that he did and I doubt they are going to get hung out like us! It doesn’t change things much, if it does it might save him from being labeled a total thug but that’s about it. I’ve said the following numerous times in the forum today as well: Andrew has made a monumental mistake and will have a long way to go to win back trust. These mistakes are not forgotten easily.

There is no doubt this will have a lasting effect on Gaff's image. To say that it won't do anything is just wrong. Can he come back from it, yes he can absolutely. But this will not be forgotten overnight. Regardless of the fact that we are linked with him I like Gaff. He seems like a good young bloke from a good family and attended the same school as myself so I'm confident he's been brought up with good values. Unfortunately it counts for very little here, he has made a monumental mistake here that he is going to have to live with. In the age of YouTube people will pull out that footage in years time and go straight back to that reference point. He can get back from this but he has many rivers to cross to win the trust back. Some mistakes in life aren't easily forgotten.

Fair enough. Make no mistake these things do not and absolutely should not happen in footy. Period. I don’t think Gaff is a thug, but he’s made a monumental mistake and won’t move past it easily.

Did either of us say that? In no way am I letting the guy off I’m simply commenting on the method of the strike. I am not defending him, nor do I think he’ll get less than 7 weeks.

I must admit my first thought was that it was a body shot gone totally wrong.

Honestly I think it should be at least 7 weeks. It’s disgusting

I can’t even fathom the idea but I respect your opinion. You’re entitled to have it, not going to attack you for having a different view.

It’s an excellent point. The ultimate test of club integrity.

From a neutral point of view I say what you’re saying clearly. From our point of view, come on man!! The guy has spent nearly his whole career in rebuilds. He deserves to be part of something different at this stage of his career than to up sticks and be part of another one. I know footy clubs should be looking through the windshield rather than in the rear view mirror but I just don’t think we’re st that point yet with Jones. Not to mention I’m pretty selfish and want him to be a 1 club player.

This news was heartbreaking. The more tributes that came out the harder it was. You can really tell the measure of a person by the way people talk about them not so much what they say. From all accounts this fella is as good a bloke as you can be lucky to meet. My heart goes out to his family. I hope there is something we can do collectively to give him support.

S-Town was magnificent. Might have to revisit that one. Started getting into the Joe Rogan experience again lately but mostly in the form of YouTube clips. I wish they would do like a 1 hour condensed version of the show just don't have time for the full 3 hours!

They are desperate for a quality mid so they'll probably take what they can get even its the best of a bad bunch.

Come on all you fight fans come back! Dillashaw and Garbrandt soon who are your tips?

Massive signings. NFC West is gonna be electric!

The thing that gets me about this is the timing. Never a more irrelevant time for him to speak about anything relating to us.