Redleg

If we grab the bloke they want, they might not be inclined to trade picks with us.

Given Harmes, JJ and Dunstan leaving as the midfield depth, the quote from the club to the journos, on our trading this year, probably sums it up for this off season. We will get McAdam and maybe Flynn or another ruckman. We may have a pick in the pre season or mid season draft, if they are still happening. We will try and get as high as we can in the draft and take 4-5 of the best players we can get. These draftees will be on base salaries. There may be a mid or two in that group. However, we also have to try out our current talent in Woey, Laurie, Howes and maybe AMW to see if they are up to it and they could all possibly play midfield minutes. We also can try the likes of Kozzie, Rivers, McVee and Bowey in the midfield, to see how they go, with Kozzie already demonstrating his ability, in the few times he was there. Even Spargo played midfield as a junior. Then next year, with cap space freed up this year from the names we all know leaving and next year with at least BBB and Tom Mac retired and another $1m freed up with just those two, we could be in a position to really launch at a couple of FA's. I would be surprised if on the current info, the above is far off expected our position.

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Well there goes any deal for pick 1 if that happens, possibly.

They have two, Williams and youngster Barnett.

There is probably not a flag winner who didn't have luck with injuries, allowing consistency of performance. Last year we were banged up and this year we were ravaged by injuries.

Part of showing respect to a player is to have a heart to heart with them, outlining where they are at. If the FD feels they won't play senior footy in the next season, then a retirement with a payment, has them leaving as a senior player, not a reserves player, who played on too long. Conversations need to be honest and respectful as you say, but the player needs to know the lay of the land and then be allowed to make a decision, on how they want to end their time at the club. That is the respect that you afford your long term players. I would think most players with pride want to go out near the top, not the bottom, thereby harming their playing reputation.

Disagree. I don't want us chasing anyone who is not best 25 on our list atm, or capable of getting there, except a backup ruckman. The days of getting anyone are gone for us, as we have a pretty good list, that just needs a little specific improvement.

It will in time.

Well hopefully we are a chance. At least with us he would be 2nd in line, but would certainly get games. At Giants he is 3rd in line and with WC I am unsure of their rucks without Nic Nat, but know they have Williams, who is more of a fill in. If he is a WA, then I would imagine WC would have appeal.

Easy for you to say.

Well if it's based solely on a sell out GF and a great game, plus Gill finally leaving the building, then it would be a good year for the AFL. If it's about a host of other issues they have stuffed up, then absolutely not.

Love James for what he has done for us, but unfortunately his disposal and decision making is now really poor. Wish him all the best wherever he lands, be it Tigers or Bombers.

Sydney have a far deeper midfield than the Saints, so it is strange for a player who has not been able to get a regular game and is probably leaving for more opportunities. I could say the same for JJ. Maybe the contract is fatter.

Thought Dow was headed to Saints. Maybe Shiel was main target.

Love to have Flynn, yeah want him the most, Unfortunately though, he has chosen West Coast.

Or if Acres was Mil Hanna, we would have been in the PF.

But we love a goal, And that's his main role. We played a tall, who must have a stench, As we kept the poor guy, stuck to the bench.

So then you want Watson, he's very slick, Can take a nice grab and is also so quick.

6 of their 18 points were rushed in play. They kicked pressure goals after the siren twice and several from outside 50, with Crisp two, De Goey and Sidebottom, just as examples.

Roses are red, Violets are blue, Who is the new guy, To wear red and blue?

Sorry, I don't regard ruckmen as key position players, just as I don't view mids as key position players. I view FF, CHF, CHB and RB as the key position players. Anyway that is how I think of them.

Agreeing.

Yes and Mihocek says hi.

Faris-White is not a key position player and either is Sestan for a start. We know we have injuries and maybe a retirement in there as well, so no problems.