Its Time for Another

Is it just me or did anyone else think he looked a trifle less than enthusiastic in that interview. Looked like he was pushed rather than jumped. MM must really have had a beef with him. Wonder what that's about. Hopefully whatever it was/is will be gone. Assuming they are this could be one of the MFC's few steals in recent times. Nasher what charges were you referring to. On another note. Aren't genetics a [censored]. Buddy is his first cousin their mothers are sisters. Buddy is 198cm's and built like the proverbial and Jeff is 180cm's and built not like the proverbial.

Hi Ethan, did your father get a chance to ask Barass at the GF what this means

Just out of interest did he keep 31 when he went to Carlton.

Ha! Ok, that would be great. Thanks for asking him. Only problem is he didn't remember what it was as soon as he wrote it. So it probably won't help asking him. But you never know. Your father might have a better idea than him.

It was written just a couple of years ago.

That would be awesome. Ethan what would I do without you. You come to the fore again. Cheers.

Hi All, A friend of mine is the actor who played Ron Barassi in the musical Barassi. The great man finally went to the show and loved it so much he gave the actor the poster I have attached with a note and the letters NPUICF. It could be NPVICF. He asked him a short time later what it meant and he couldn't remember. It would be great if someone could solve this. Out of interest, Barassi had the poster for many years as it has the Premierships his team would have won if they hadn't lost to Collingwood in '58.

WJ how do you know ASADA is under no compulsion to provide evidence. Is that part of the ASADA Act or something else? In any other tribunal etc natural justice would require it to be provided. However, I can understand this if the issue here is that once there is evidence that a charged athlete took something which there clearly is here, then they have to show records of what drugs they took and if they can't show that then they are automatically guilty of drug cheating. Do you know if that is how this procedure operates. If it is then surely that is very clear and I don't understand what the players think their defence is. I can understand why this would be the case because otherwise drug cheats could just merely not keep records and be free to cheat as long as they don't get caught through failing drug tests.

They bent us right over with the Dawes trade and obviously think we are still soft. Hope they are wrong and the new regime won't succumb. Still feel sick and can't believe Clark walking out to walk down the road. It's so wrong. He will be a gun next year. Please Norm, please, your curse has done enough. It's getting worse the more the years go on, not better. Please release us.

I can't understand on what basis ASADA won't supply them the evidence they have. They know the players don't know what the hell went on so if they have evidence what possible reason would there be for not giving it to them. To demand they just agree to take sanctions when they don't know what went on and ASADA won't give them the evidence they have that convicts them is crazy. I wouldn't agree to that either. I'm pretty sure ASADA sanctions would get set aside on the basis of a failure of natural justice if they don't provide the evidence in this situation. As I understand it a lot of the players, their partners ( who have had babies or hope to have them) their families etc are very stressed about the players health. If ASADA have evidence of what they were given why on earth wouldn't they give it to them to let them all know. Crazy stuff.

This Club is on life support until it starts winning games. We have a President with impeccable football experience. That should be the focus until they start winning. Once we have a list that is competitive and people want to be associated with us as Members, Sponsors etc then worry about a President who is a spruiker but right now IMHO we have the right man for the job.

Wonder if there is a bit of a ploy here by the Club so that there isn't any definitive answer from Frawley until after today's request for a special assistance pick is decided. If he had already announced he was going there's no way the AFL would entertain a first round draft pick on top of picks 2 and 3 but without knowing if he's staying or going at this stage maybe it would help us getting a first rounder. I doubt it but hey you've got to give everything a go.

One of the things I have enjoyed most about this saga is that finally for once it doesn't involve MFC. But this part of the article could yet come back to bite us on our backsides. "The revelations come as the club prepares for the possibility of show cause notices being issued to several support staff. Insiders at ASADA have hinted that there are more show cause notices to be issued stemming from the Essendon investigation." Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Club just appoint one of the support staff who was sending emails around about being sent the good gear. Or something to that effect. Lets hope and prey our new appointee isn't about to be issued one of those notices. I never saw the references to him until he was appointed but it has to be a worry. Wouldn't that just be typical if he ends up being banned after just being appointed to us.

Correct. Same applies to Clubs but some Clubs have suggested they would challenge them.

Next. I can't see how the AFL can avoid giving them severe sanctions for running a drug cheating regime. Little made sure that he protected what was left of Hird's reputation by insisting in the settlement last year that it expressly said there was no suggestion of drug cheating and the sanctions were expressly only for poor governance. Can't possibly see how the AFL can avoid giving them very serious sanctions otherwise the reputation of the AFL as a sport will be more damaged than anything that is going to happen to Essendon. This case has set another unrelated but incredibly significant precedent. The Judge referred to the fact the players had entered into binding contracts with the AFL to be investigated and give up their right to avoid self incrimination and that contractual agreement is binding. This is the first time these contracts have ever been commented on in the Courts. The significance of this is that the court is saying the Clubs and Players contractual obligations with the League are binding. These contracts include the salary cap and the draft. In the past there have been rumours of threats by Eddie No Where that if he didn't get what he wanted he would get the salary cap etc set aside for being anti competitive but the Court is saying if you sign a contract to be part of the AFL it is binding. People have often wondered what would happen if a player or Club took it to court. Well here is the answer.

Yep, just ask Freo. Worked well for them with Clark.

One of the other significant advantages of this system is stopping compromising the draft with top teams not only getting players for nothing but every other team in the comp getting shunted a pick for each free agent that is mostly going to top teams.

Ha, that's so Yossarian.

A good mate of mine is a passionate Collingwood fan and he has watched Lumumba every game for years and can't stand him. Says he is completely unaccountable, makes horrible decisions and is a horrible user of the ball. I have debated with him several times as I'm a huge fan from what I've seen. But he is adamant and says many other Pies supporters can't stand him as well. They see a lot more of him than I have and I rate his opinion, so opinions are evidently divided on him as a player. Not sure if he would be the ultimate disciplined role player which characterises a Roos player. Having said all of that, from what I've personally ever seen, I'd love to have him. I've seen him tear a big one in several top teams over the journey as well as us.

On the other hand, PJ said on the footy show on the weekend that he had already had informal meetings with potential Senior Assistants who were contracted and under the rules he couldn't hold formal meetings with. His comment was as long as there is a coffee cup on the table its an informal meeting. So there seems to be a fair bit of it going around.

Essendon brought the court case to say the way ASADA got this evidence was illegal and the Notices should be permanently stopped from being issued. They are saying if the Notices are voided ASADA doesn't have the power to force the players to give this evidence again. I don't really understand this as ASADA has since been given legislative power to force athletes to give evidence. Apparently there is some argument that players can refuse to give evidence that is self incriminating. I don't know how that works as surely that's the point of the power. Anyway this is obviously the evidence Bombers brought the case to stop.

Skilton sacked Alves. He was a sacked player when Baras gave him a ring out of the blue and the rest is history. I heard that directly from Alves.

What he said. It was reported he was on massive money when they lured him to the Dons. MFC won't be able to pay him massive money with what they are paying Roosy. He said earlier this year on AFL360 that the succession plan wouldn't work for him under Roos. So what role would he come over for. Why would he come to Dees as an Assistant on a lowly Assistants wage. Maybe he could be the head of the footy dept but after his performance at the Dons that better not happen. According to the evidence that came out about him telling them to stop the injections and they kept going for two months afterwards, he is just as implicit in that f-up as anyone. For some reason he can't see that. Not sure we want him onboard as a head of a footy dept and can't see him as an Assistant. Doesn't make sense. Maybe the talks GOF was talking about were pre Roosy's decision to sign on for the third year.

That won't be happening. He's their number one ruckman since departure of Mummy. The other ruckman behind him are a long way behind. He won't be going anywhere. His go home factor is a bit further away than Melbourne.

Interesting that in his darkest period he has stayed in Melbourne not returned to Perth. So not sure why so many people are concerned about him only playing for a WA team. He's still here. Interesting he tweeted about doing a recovery session at StKilda. Would suggest he's training pretty hard to need a recovery session. If he continues to train hard and the body holds up, it will be interesting to see if this helps him overcome one of the reported triggers for his depression and retirement which was his body continually failing. Perhaps if he was interested in giving it a go we could take him on as a rookie. He would not be under any of the pressure that was one of the other triggers for his depression. He could come back in without any pressure and see how he went. It would be worth the gamble for MFC if he was just taking up a rookie spot. Wouldn't think it would be worth the gamble to keep him on the list. One can but dream.