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Why? The Pies lured him with a contract offer. Then twice asked him to shift money into future years - second time they had to extend contract out to 2025 expiry to smooth the deferred payments for ongoing cap management purposes - because they'd stuffed their cap by offering Beams 4 years at 600K when they had not planned for that contract, and by generally handing out inflated contracts post 2018 granny. He is not getting $900,000 to play for each of next 5 seasons because hundreds of thousands of that amount is deferred payments from previous seasons. The Pies cap is a cluster of highest order. They need to salary cap dump a 5 year contract that includes deferred payments from previous seasons that make the contract untradeable without Pies paying 1 to 1.5 million over the 5 years for Treloar to play for another club and that'll go in the Pies salary cap each year. In most businesses staff involved would be sacked except Eddie was driving force behind Beam's return so action unlikely.

Turning Dom Tyson into Pick 31 is good work indeed. If Preuss can minimise injuries and be a regular he'll be a good get for Giants.

$700K for Adam Treloar is full or over market value. And then there is the 4 years post 2021 which take him to his 32 yo season. With his history of soft tissue injuries any club taking on the 5 year contract would have to mitigate risk that he won't be available consistently. That mitigation would be Pies paying part of contract of each of the remaining 5 years or Treloar agreeing to contract variation. But why would he? Pies have twice pushed back money owed to him. The Grundy contract is another shocker. 7 years at million a year ending at his 33 year old season.

The 900K and then the 4 subsequent years on his contract? No club in their right mind is going to take on that contract without Pies ponying up hundreds of thousands of dollars of payments that go against their cap. Its not just the 900K due in 21 in his 28yo season, its the 4 subsequent years for a player who has had problems staying on the park due to soft tissue injuries. Its a terrible contract.

The Pies were not far too smart to mismanage their player contracts to such an extent that they appear to need to salary cap dump multiple contracts including a player in his 28 yo season in 2021 with 5 years to go on a contract and dodgy hammies, which has $900,000 due in 2021 and who they extended and backended to fit in Dayne Beams. They gave a 7 year $7 million contract to a ruckman who'll be 33 in the final year of the deal. They handed out above market contracts to other players after 2018 Grand Final which they're now looking to dump or extend years to smooth the yearly cap hit. Its a giant cluster.

Treloar turns 28 in March 2021 so the 5 seasons left on his Pies contract covering his 28 to 32 year old seasons. He's had recent history of significant soft tissue injuries. His contract pays him above market terms based on his ability and recent availability and it runs for another 5 seasons till he turns 32. Hard to see how Pies can shift him unless they agree to cover ballpark $1,000,000 of his contract over remaining 5 years. Or a combination of Pies subsidy and Treloar agreeing to take a pay cut (Why would he?). Pies have next to no hand. Treloar can say no to a trade and force Pies to honour contract or tell them which Melbourne based club he has agreed to go to and with which they make a trade. Salary dumps are common in salary cap sports but a salary cap dump of a contract that has 5 seasons to run requires a special kind of stupid. What a salary cap cluster seemingly caused by above market contracts post 2018 Grand Final and unplanned for trading back in of Beams. The later requiring the disastrous extension for Treloar to push back money to fit Beams in. Overpayed Grundy and signed him till 2027 ie his 33 year old season. Pendlebury in 33 year old season in 2021 and I'd suspect he is still in upper echelon of player contracts despite being past his prime. Good luck Pies. OK. Not really.

If Pies are paying Tom Phillips $550,000 in 2021 which could've been $600,000 with a good 2020 then their cap woes are understandable. It reads like Essendon post 2000 when cap increases were lower than they had budgeted for and they got rid of Caracella, Heffernan and Blumfield in a fire sale. Challenge Pies face is players in contract can choose their new club which may not be club offering best deal for Pies. In short the player has the power. Langdon played well and I like Baker but Phillips would be a good addition to out wing stocks at the right price. May we never play inside mids on the wing again.

You forgot former Dees Winger Dom Tyson. It was perplexing that we waited till last few games of season to play 2 wingman. Landon had a good year, Baker showed good signs when he finally came in. Both back pocket to forward pocket runners who can get forward or back to cover a team mate or be an option. Philips disposal may not be perfect but if he has those attributes we'd have room in our 22. All depends on what Maggies want trade wise and his choice of club. If its a salary cap dump then Pires don't have a strong hand.

He may want to leave. He may want to go to Carlton. That happens. If above is fact then the ball is our court as he is under contract for next season and will not be a free agent at that point. He is a 23 year old All Australian so his trade value is high. The question is what can unlock to allow us to replace him with a player of his, or close to his, quality.

If Jones gets to 300 games next season the match committee is not selecting the best 22 every week.

How do we know he ticks all the boxes?

Purpose was to exit Tyson so match committee didnt select him on the wing!

Or after the strange but most welcome late season selection pivot to pace and run on outside we encourage Jack to keep winning ball but utilise new speedy hard running actual wingers in Langdon and Baker.

Query with Zac Williams is availability not performance. Has only once had back to back 22 game seasons and only 3 22 + game seasons. 11, 8, 12, 22, 23, 2, 24, 11* Whereas Adam Saad 16, 10, 22, 22. 22., 17* *17 game home and away season. If you're paying Zac big $ for 5 years your fingers are crossed that he'll be on the park consistently. High reward if he is. Cap risk if he's sitting in the stands.

His disposal is a huge concern particularly when he burns inside 50s. More generally he has not become the player his early years promised. But if he played in a team with a repeatable method that stood up under scrutiny every week his attributes might be better utilised.

Just as long as we lock Clarko in a room at trade time!

You're complaining we drafted a speedy type who can hit a target inside 50?

Cazaly Stadium is a couple of thousand kays north of the Sunshine Coast let alone Metricon.

Dire. Over to you Glen.

One of the greatest servants of this club. His resilience through years of sustained mediocrity on and off the field should never be forgotten. But should have retired at end of 2019. There is no place in the team for him.

How often do our 3 mids all hunt the ball drop at centre bounce? If we win possession no release handball option. If opposition win possession they've got a player in space to release to

No defensive setup at centre bounce with 30 seconds to go. No defensive side sweeper to block Saints winning ball and charging straight towards goal.

Who is playing on Dan Butler? Lockhart seems most obvious but he aint playing.

11 games in 3 years. Simply irresponsible to sign him to a long term high dollar contract even as an FA when his record shows long periods of unavailability. And he is a Restricted Free Agent so Bombers can match a responsible contract offer.

200 km in the NT is like next door! Port and Crows have alot of fans from remote communities who attend Alice games. Possibly from APY lands.