Elwood 3184
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16 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:
Cheers again for all the training reports. I am sure I speak for most Dees fans living outside of Victoria, it is much appreciated.
You can also speak for most Dees fans living inside of Victoria who for whatever reason can't make it down to training.
Thanks also to the mods for getting rid of the nitpickers who used to derail these threads by picking arguments at the drop of a hat and generally playing the fool.
Training threads are much more readable these days.
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5 hours ago, hoopla said:
Penalise a team - and then reward them for the effects of that penalty How can this be?
Welcome to the wonderful world of the AFL.
The final nail in the coffin will come if they go lightly on GWS for their role in the Whitfield affair.
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On 26/11/2016 at 9:38 AM, spirit of norm smith said:
Great write up... hope to add Bailey Morrish or Louis Cunningham as rookies.
Morrish is training with the Scorpions.
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On 16/11/2016 at 10:17 PM, daisycutter said:
they would sue themselves? priceless
The threats worked. All has gone quiet. The AFL has issued its final draft order and GWS will in all likelihood, not lose any draft picks. The AFL has swung another wet lettuce in the direction of the Giants who will draft and pay the Ferryman Perryman.
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Robert Hickmott has now trained as many Melbourne Cup winners as he played games for the Demons.
A stunning achievement.
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3 hours ago, stinga said:
The way I understand it is -
Say North Melbourne bids 11th pick on Collingwood.s father son pick Callum Brown. Pick 11 is worth 1329 points so collingwood have to come up with those points.
So they use pick 28 @ 667, Pick44 #362, Pick51 @ 259 and pick 62 @ 123 to match the points. Once you get past pick 60 the points are not worth much.
On that pick alone our 47 becomes 46 , 69 becomes 66 and 84 becomes 81.
If there are another say 5 similar bids on players, I think we could be closer to 40.50 and 70.
That works if North bid for him with pick 11 and Collingwood matches that bid.
However, it's unlikely that Brown would attract a bid that high. More likely it would be around the mid 20's and the cost in points to Collingwood would not be anywhere near that high.
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10 hours ago, TheoX said:
Downie from GWS will be delisted, he's the best we could probably do.
The word is that Downie and a few others will be delisted before the end of the month deadline in order to allow for GWS to keep all of its selections for academy bidding.
However, in order for us to pick up a DFA, we have to make room on our list for another selection because we only have three spots available.
Any chance you might want to nominate which contracted player we would be paying out to create space?
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I read an article saying Richmond should expect a much more favourable fixture in 2017 because of where they finished in 2016. That might be fair enough but from my memory, they received a very good one this year and it didn't help.
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NAB Trade Radio - the final deals:-
• Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
• Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
• Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
• Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
• Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
• Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
• Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
• Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52.
• Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's pick 23 and 36.
• Paul Ahern traded from GWS to North Melbourne in exchange for pick 69
• Three Way Trade: Gold Coast receive Pearce Hanley and Port Adelaide's pick 67. Port Adelaide receive Brisbane's pick 19 and Gold Coast's pick 30. Brisbane receive Gold Coast's pick 22 and Port Adelaide's future first round pick.
• Jordan Lewis, pick 57 and pick 58 traded from Hawthorn to Melbourne in exchange for pick 48 and 66.
• Joel Hamling, pick 40 and 63 traded from the Western Bulldogs to Fremantle in exchange for pick 35, 43 and 61.
• Michael Hibberd and pick 59 traded to Melbourne in exchange for picks 29 and 68.
• Dion Prestia and pick 24 traded to Richmond in exchange for picks 6 and the club's 2017 future second round pick.
• Toby Nankervis traded from Sydney to Richmond in exchange for pick 46.
Western Bulldogs trade pick 35 and 43 to the Gold Coast in exchange for picks 26 and 80
• Jarrod Witts traded from Collingwood to Gold Coast in exchange for picks 44 and 62
• Nathan Hrovat traded from Western Bulldogs to North Melbourne, with both clubs swapping their 2017 future third and fourth round draft picks.
• Shane Kersten traded from Geelong to Fremantle in exchange for pick 63.
• Zach Tuohy and Carlton's 2017 future second round pick traded from Carlton to Geelong in exchange for Billie Smedts, pick 63 and Geelong's 2017 future first round pick.
• Josh Caddy and pick 56 traded from Geelong to Richmond in exchange for picks 24 and 64
• Sydney trade picks 39 and 52 to GWS in exchange for pick 31
• Jarryd Lyons and pick 71 traded from Adelaide to Gold Coast in exchange for picks 43 and 67.
• Pat McKenna, pick 51 and pick 69 traded from GWS to Melbourne in exchange for picks 57 and 59
• Nathan Vardy traded from Geelong to West Coast in exchange for pick 72
• Travis Cloke traded from Collingwood to Western Bulldogs in exchange for pick 76
• James Stewart traded from GWS to Essendon in exchange for pick 77
• Aaron Black traded from North Melbourne to Geelong for pick 92
• Will Hoskin-Elliott traded from GWS to Collingwood in exchange for GWS' future second-round pick
• Jack Frost, pick 76 and Collingwood's 2017 future third-round selection traded from Collingwood to Brisbane in exchange for Brisbane's 2017 third and fourth round picks.
• Marley Williams traded from Collingwood to North Melbourne in exchange for pick 105
• Lynden Dunn and pick 51 traded from Melbourne to Collingwood in exchange for pick 47
• Koby Stevens, pick 61 and the Western Bulldogs' 2017 fourth pick traded from the Bulldogs to St Kilda in exchange for pick 50 and their 2017 round 5 pick.
• Brett Deledio traded from Richmond to GWS in exchange for GWS' 2017 first and third round picks
• Caleb Marchbank, Jarrod Pickett and GWS' future 2017 second round pick traded from GWS to Carlton in exchange for picks 45, 58 and Carlton's future 2017 first round pick
• Rhys Palmer traded from GWS to Carlton in exchange for pick 135
• Jaeger O'Meara traded from Gold Coast to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 10 and a future second-round pick
• Pick 14, 17 and 31 traded from Sydney to Port Adelaide in exchange for picks 9 and 19 and 49
• Pick 48, 66 and 70 traded from Hawthorn to Carlton in exchange for Carlton's 2017 second round pick. -
Apparently, the details of the transaction are going to be interesting when released.
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Good luck to him even though I can't figure out why a bucketful of extra $ was more important to him than playing for the football club he was weaned upon as a child and that his family loves. Makes no sense at all.
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It was a day of frenetic activity on the trade front as NAB AFL Trade Radio News reports:-
• Dion Prestia will play at the Tigers next season after Richmond and Gold Coast today agreed on a trade which sees pick 6 head to the Suns.• Jimmy Bartel has announced his retirement from football, confirming today that season 2016 would be his last.
• Adelaide's Jarryd Lyons has announced he wants to play at the Gold Coast Suns next season. This move could become part of the deal to get Jaeger O'Meara to the Hawks.
• Gold Coast has once again announced it won't trade Jaeger O'Meara to the Hawks unless they get something significant back in return. The club's chairman today saying the Suns would have no hesitation in sending O'Meara into the pre-season draft.
• Essendon's Michael Hibberd today became a Melbourne player after the two club's agreed on a trade
• The paperwork for Zach Tuohy to become a Cats player will be submitted tomorrow morning in a deal which will also see Billie Smedts sent to the Blues.
DONE DEALS SO FAR:
Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52
Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's picks 23 and 36
Paul Ahern traded from GWS to North Melbourne for pick 69
Nathan Brown moves from Collingwood to St Kilda as a restricted free agent
Michael Hibberd and pick 59 traded to Melbourne in exchange for picks 29 and 68
Dion Prestia and pick 24 traded to Richmond in exchange for picks 6 and the club's 2017 future second round pick.
Toby Nankervis traded from Sydney to Richmond in exchange for pick 46.-
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He's already been back. Junior played for Old Xaverians in 2011 while also working with Greater Western Sydney's Melbourne-based players in a development role.
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The NAB Trade Radio round up has the Demons in the limelight:-
• Jordan Lewis says Jesse Hogan re-signing at the Demons was a key factor in him joining the club. Lewis today joined the Demons on a three-year deal.
• Pearce Hanley will be a Gold Coast Suns player next season after complicated three-way trade involving Brisbane and Port Adelaide saw him leave the Lions.
• Melbourne defender Lynden Dunn could be playing at the Pies next season with reports today he would officially request a trade to Collingwood.
• Sydney ruckman Toby Nankervis has today officially requested a trade to the Tigers.
• Western Bulldogs defender Joel Hamling is officially a Fremantle player after the two clubs agreed on a trade today.
DONE DEALS SO FAR:
Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52
Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's picks 23 and 36
Paul Ahern traded from GWS to North Melbourne for pick 69
Nathan Brown moves from Collingwood to St Kilda as a restricted free agent.-
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9 hours ago, A F said:
Hibberd, Melksham and Lewis will definitely change things, but IMO probably not enough.
Of course Melksham was already on the list.
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Interesting with the ins and outs (including the ones to come), I don't think our list's average age is going to change all that much in the end.
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It wasn't just us - Lloyd reveals Sheedy wanted to trade him for Judd
Admittedly, Sheedy wanted to bring in a Brownlow Medallist and not dump one.
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After another fascinating but uneventful day, NAB Trade Readio is reporting:-
• Hawthorn midfielder Jordan Lewis is a step closer to being a Demons player after today requesting a trade to the club. The Hawks and Demons must now agree on a deal.
• Collingwood has lost another defender with Nathan Brown moving to St Kilda as a restricted free agent. Collingwood didn't match their offer and they receive no compensation for losing him.
• Sydney forward Xavier Richards looks like having a new home next season after requesting a trade away from the club. It's expected Richards will look for a new home with a Victorian club.
• North Melbourne has secured GWS youngster Paul Ahern, with a trade today seeing pick 69 head to GWS from the Roos.
• The future of Jimmy Bartel is no clearer, with his teammate Tom Hawkins today telling NAB AFL Trade Radio he hadn't heard whether his teammate wanted to play on in 2017.
DONE DEALS SO FAR:
• Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
• Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
• Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
• Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
• Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
• Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
• Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
• Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
• Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52
• Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's picks 23 and 36
• Paul Ahern traded from GWS to North Melbourne for pick 69
• Nathan Brown moves from Collingwood to St Kilda as a restricted free agent-
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Tucked away almost at the bottom of this article is this short sentence:
"There has been no movement on Tom Rockliff at the Lions, though the possibility remains that a club will come for him late."
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Thanks all.
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1 minute ago, Harbinger43 said:
Haven't heard anything re Rockliff.
And Brisbane say they haven't heard anything re Rockliff from Melbourne either.
Make of that what you wish.
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The Hawks are dominating the NAB Trade Radio airwaves today -
• Hawthorn champion Sam Mitchell is officially a West Coast player after being traded to the club today, for effectively pick 88.
• The Hawks did get a win though with Sydney midfielder Tom Mitchell today officailly joining the club via a trade with the Swans.
• Hawthorn midfielder Jordan Lewis is no cetainty to be at the Hawks next season after the drama of yesterday. Lewis is livid with the Hawks after they asked if he wanted to be traded, and is believed to be still exploring his options with the Demons.
• The Western Bulldogs are confident impressive first-year defender Marcus Adams will play out his contract despite exploring a possible move home to Western Australia.
• Hawthorn appears closer than ever to securing Gold Coast midfielder Jaeger O'Meara after a trade with the Saints saw them gain pick 10 - a pick which will almost certainly be used in the O'Meara trade.
DONE DEALS SO FAR:
Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52
Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's picks 23 and 36-
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Today's NAB Trade Radio chatter and the Dees get a mention first up:-
• Hawthorn vice-captain Jordan Lewis today nearly became the second high-profile player to leave the Hawks this NAB AFL Trade Period. However, a last-minute backflip from the Hawks put an end to a move which would have seen Lewis become a Demon.
• Brad Hill will play with his brother at Fremantle next season at the Hawks and the Dockers finalised a trade this morning which sends pick 23 back to the Hawks.
• Western Bulldogs midfielder Koby Stevens has officially requested a trade to St Kilda. The two clubs will now work to get a deal done.• Port Adelaide midfielder Brendon Ah Chee remains interested in a move to Gold Coast if a spot on the club's list becomes available.
• GWS will take selection No.2 to the NAB AFL Draft after exchanging picks 3 and 16 with the Brisbane Lions, as well as a group of later selections.
• Brisbane Lions' defender Pearce Hanley appears certain to find his way to the Gold Coast during this year's NAB AFL Trade Period.
DONE DEALS SO FAR
Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.-
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I've heard it spoken around the traps that ANB is being sought by Adelaide.
Anyone else heard this and if it's correct, would we let him go and if so, for what?
6, 14, 19, 22, 31, 38, 40 and 45
in Melbourne Demons
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I'm beginning to think that 31 needs to be rested for a long while. Since Barassi left, the number seems to have been jinxed with most wearers never achieving their full potential or lasting as long as might have been expected. I suppose that Paul Wheatley might be considered as the exception to the rule in a way but some might argue that even he didn't live up to the promise he showed at the very early stages of his career.