Whispering_Jack

Good to see that chilliboy finally landed on his feet and got a job at Sportsnewsfirst!!

Good luck to him. I thought he might get a gig in the media.

No Paine, no gain?

Let's face it, the entire club lost it's dignity on or about 30 July 2011. A great deal of what's happened since then has been about restoring it's dignity. We've reconstructed our football department, re-signed the players we wanted to keep, had the dark shadow of the Tom Scully saga removed off our shoulders and are now looking forward to the trades, drafting and what promises to be an interesting and exciting pre season in which our promising young list can start catching up to the competition's elites under the most expert guidance available. Why can't our players perform on a public stage acting and looking like knobs just like the players from every other club? It's absolutely therapeutic and good on them as long as I don't have to watch it!

If you keep this up we might have to exert some discipline and change the name again to "Not a BS Thread"!

Quite right Redleg but I'm a little tired of winning the pr battles in spring and summer and losing the impoortant ones in autumn and winter. Still, I hope that we can now win in the trades and draft periods to allow us to be well prepared for the big stuff later. I haven't been following this Neil Craig thing all that closely but I knew we were in with a chance when, as others have pointed out above, sportsnews first started crowing that the Blues had him. And finally, on a more sobre note, I really hope that all of this news brings some succour to Jimmy and helps him through his illness. He placed his reliance on Garry Lyon and his friend is doing him proud.

I think Old's quoting Kosi's stats and not Grimes'.

Usually, there's a reason why someone gets to be an overage player in the TAC Cup Under 18s such as injury or the player is a slow developer. Often they're ruckmen who take time to mature. Is there any reason known in the case of Markworth or is it simply his relatively short time in the game?

What are your informants saying we're getting in return? Let me guess ... Leroy Jetta and a fourth round pick?

The beauty of having a new broom to sweep clean is exactly what this thread is all about. Since the departure of David Neitz early in Dean Bailey's time there's been a gaping hole where the power key forwards normally play and though we have a few young blokes at the club who might fit the bill one day, they're still two or three years away from being up to the mark. It will be interesting to see which direction the new look football department with Mark Neeld at the helm takes, but Kosi would certainly be an interesting acquisition for the club. I suppose it depends partly on Neeld's views and partly on whether Kosi feels he needs a fresh challenge to reinvigorate his career. If the coach feels he fulfills a need and he can help achieve this, then why not?

Rumour that Kevin Sheedy is going to throw a lifeline to Andy Lovell. Like Junior Mac he'll have dual role as a player and mentor for the young guns who will learn all of the social graces from him.

No, because we still have to bid for him officially in the 2012 draft and (inevitably) it's going to cost us our first pick.

Very sad. He was one of my very first heroes. Condolences to his family.

So that means he's getting paid $1m for every Brownlow vote he polled this year. Nice work if you can get it. Lucky they didn't go after Dane Swan.

Congratulations to Brent Moloney - it's been a while since a Demon polled as many votes as he did this year and he did it after overcoming a long run with debilitating injuries.

Sorry but the congratulations to Beamer, while well deserved, shouldn't be on this ridiculous thread. I'm locking it up and starting another one. L

I think he was on an AFL list but delisted a year or two ago.

This version from David Bridie of My Friend The Chocolate Cake is so good, it deserves to be pinned to the top of the Demons Board.

The number of possessions he won is not enough to do his game justice. It's also the way he earned them and his ferocious attack on the football and on his opponent if the player had the football. He wouldn't concede a centimetre, he was so miserly in the way he tackled and harassed throughout the game. I suspect that he might have tired a bit in the game's latter stages. He was rotated off for a while in the third and spent a lot of time in the last quarter deep in the forward line. There was a time in the last quarter just before Sandy started it's final surge to win the game that a teammate chose a difficult snap instead of a pass to Viney which could have sealed the result. Viney looked filthy. There were plenty of others on display in what was a terrific match - possibly the best I've seen all season and I'll be doing a report on the game at some stage in the next few days.

I've done a little more research on Manson. That Claremont Colts debut game mentioned above when he kicked 4.5 was in WAFL round 21 which the Tigers won by 124 points. His full stats were 15 kicks 0 handballs 9 marks 1 tackle, 3 hit outs and 1 inside 50. The following week, he flew in for a game with Claremont's reserves against East Fremantle and had a modest 4 possessions but kicked 2 goals. He was back in the Colts for their Round 23 demolition of Peel Thunder and he again had 15 disposals but this time one of them was a handball. He also took 11 marks and kicked 8.4. I think that was all for Claremont in 2011 but it was enough to qualify him for the Draft Combine and we should take a close look at him then. No doubt you can have too much of one type of player, but we don't have too many 195cm tall forwards who can kick goals. One of the considerations in drafting this bloke would be the club's capacity to ensure that it can create the right environment for a player from a very different part of the country that has a climate and culture completely unlike his home. We have a good track record with players from disparate regions but he would be yet another challenge and I wouldn't be shrinking away from that. Besides which, with a name that sounds like a cross between a country and western singer and a mass murderer, he would have grown up tough, especially in the outback desert regions. I like the sound of him. What can I say? Footnote: I also discovered during my researches that Claremont Colts have a player called Jacob Viney. With a name like that, I would rookie the kid and try to pull a switcheroo with another player who has a similar name just to get the kid into the team a year earlier.

Official TAC Cup Under 18 BOG Jack Viney Sandringham Dragons 6.1 7.6 10.10 17.11 (113) Oakleigh Chargers 2.2 9.4 14.6 16.9 (105) GOALS: Sandringham Dragons: Roberts 5 Williams 2 Coleman 2 Paine 2 Richards 2 Sumner Anastasio Fallon Ong Oakleigh Chargers: Murphy 5 Mascitti 2 Gotch 2 Hammond Jong Greene Soriano Wooffindin Heath Arnot BEST: Sandringham Dragons: Roberts Darrou Paine Heagney-Steart Williams Woodward Oakleigh Chargers: VINEY Harris Tomlinson Murphy Greene Purcell

Unbelievable finish as Sandy wins by 8 points. Great quarter by Fletcher Roberts who kicked 4 in the last.

Three quarter time: Oakleigh 14.6.90 Sandy 10.10.70 Jack was a little bit quieter that quarter but only because he was rotated off a fair bit. My two word summary - wins contests

First two centre clearances of the second half to JV.

Greg Doyle, coach of the Chargers, is also a former Dee.