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I can't mention the player in question but it looks like he's out for the season. Knee. Will spoil the forthcoming game v GWS for some.

No, I don't think I suggested that at all. I just said that some people place trust in faith healers. I trust the medicos to do their job but as you can see their prognostications about Hogan's recuperation have been unreliable. If you're keen to see him out on the park before the end of the year then you should hope that next week he has a 1 - 2 week designation against his name because 3 - 4 weeks won't help. Nor should it.

On Saturday, 1 August, 1964, the MCG hosted 33,212 fans for what was billed as a danger game for the Demons as they faced the Saints which were the last side to beat them - back in round four. Melbourne did the job comfortably in a low scoring encounter and despite failing to score in the last half hour. Melbourne 3.5.23 6.5.41 8.7.55 8.7.55 St. Kilda 0.0.0 2.2.14 3.3.21 5.7.37 THE TEAM B: Neil Crompton Bernie Massey Bob "Tassie" Johnson HB: Tony Anderson Brian Roet Peter McLean C: Brian Dixon "Hassa" Mann Frank "Bluey" Adams HF: Bryan Kenneally Ray Groom Barrie Vagg F: Graeme Jacobs Barry Bourke Ken Emselle FOLL: Graham Wise Ron Barassi John Townsend 19/20: Jim Leitch Graeme Watson Goals Barry Bourke 3 Graeme Jacobs Hassa Mann 2 Ron Barassi Best "Hassa Mann Brian Dixon Ron Barassi Frank "Bluey" Adams Graeme Jacobs Bryan Kenneally Melbourne held St. Kilda scoreless in the opening quarter and led by 23 points at the first break. It stretched the margin to almost six goals by three quarter time and, despite being well held at the end conceded only two goals, to still record a comfortable victory. Defender Brian "Doc" Roet sustained a calf injury.

Glad you trust their judgement Bob but then there are people around who trust the judgement of faith healers too . However, on the subject of the judgement of our medical people in relation to Hogan's return date you must admit they have been well ... all over the shop:- June 18 (6 weeks ago): "Jesse Hogan (back) – 6 weeks" July 1 (4 weeks ago): "Jesse Hogan (back) – 4-6 weeks" July 9 (3½ weeks ago): "Jesse Hogan (back) – 3-4 weeks" July 15 (2½ weeks ago): "Jesse Hogan (back) – 3-4 weeks" Two days ago: "Jesse Hogan (back) – 3-4 weeks" That doesn't give much comfort upon which to place trust on their judgement but, if the trend shown above continues, it will all be moot. From a football perspective I believe that even if they now have it right with their 3 - 4 week prognosis then Hogan has run out of time for a proper 2014 return because our last game of the season is four weeks away. It would not only be pointless for him to make his AFL debut in Round 23 without the benefit of a couple of runs at VFL level, it would also be completely inconsistent with everything Paul Roos has said in the past about bringing young players up too early.

That's a bit of a fall from grace for Dom Barry if he finds himself in the Casey twos!

Great advice Bob. You wouldn't have their names, phone numbers and email addresses so I can let them know?

Like your spirit Maggot. Hope you've booked your flight to Perth for the big game. As to the five hour flight, it's simply not the ideal way for someone who has had a back injury to attempt his comeback after not playing any football for 6 months.

Do we know exactly when he hurt his back? Apparently, Hogan was worried by it during the preseason and then he travelled by plane to play in the NAB Challenge game against Geelong in Alice Springs when the main damage was done so the flight followed by the game certianly were not helpful (although it's possible the injury would have happened anyway). I would prefer that he not be played for the sake of one meaningless game, not simply to protect him from injury but because there's absolutely no point in him playing. According to the club, he's 3 to 4 weeks away which means he would have time for perhaps one VFL game before the final game of the AFL season which involves a five hour flight to Perth. That's not ideal preparation and the conditions are far from ideal to make an AFL debut. If people were critical of the match committee for thrusting Jack Watts into a showcase game on Queens Birthday when he wasn't prepared, the idea of playing Hogan just for the sake of it in a game in which nothing's at stake is even more stupid.

Jesse Hogan is 50:50 to play this year according to coach Paul Roos That's about it at the present time.

The secrecy could be a major tactic in the battle for the coveted 16th spot on the ladder.

On the subject of father/sons (and I know this might be a little premature) but one of my grandsons played in his competition's lightning premiership on Sunday and I've been flicking through the programme and come up with an interesting name for the South Melbourne Under 9 Whites - Tiernan Stynes. There's a lot of water to flow under the bridge and it must be so hard for the little bloke without his dad but what a great story it would make if he ran onto the G one day in red and blue with the number 11 on his back.

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2014 AFL draft combine list Some of these names will be on our list in about four month's time. 2014 NAB AFL DRAFT COMBINE LIST NSW/ACT Logan Austin Belconnen Nick Coughlan Murray Bushrangers Abe Davis UNSW-Easts Tom Faul Ainslie Jeremy Finlayson Hills Eagles Isaac Heeney Cardiff Jack Hiscox Sydney Uni Brydan Hodgson Murray Bushrangers Dougal Howard Murray Bushrangers Michael Mattingly Corowa-Rutherglen Tyler Roos Sandringham Dragons Jack Steele Belconnen NORTHERN TERRITORY Nakia Cockatoo NT Thunder QUEENSLAND Harris Andrews Aspley Liam Dawson Aspley Matt Hammelmann Morningside Nick Jackson Aspley Braydon Preuss Mt Gravatt Matthew Uebergang Ipswich Lachie Weller Broadbeach SOUTH AUSTRALIA Peter Bampton Norwood Caleb Daniel South Adelaide Sam Durdin West Adelaide Brett Eddy South Adelaide Josh Glenn Central Districts Dean Gore Sturt Cory Gregson Glenelg Declan Hamilton Port Adelaide Oleg Markov North Adelaide Alex Neal-Bullen Glenelg Keenan Ramsey Port Adelaide Tom Read Sturt James Rose Sturt Billy Stretch Glenelg Harrison Wigg North Adelaide TASMANIA Josh McGuinness Lauderdale VIC COUNTRY Daniel Butler North Ballarat Rebels Christian Buykx-Smith Gippsland Power Daniel Capiron Dandenong Stingrays Zaine Cordy Geelong Falcons Jordan Cunico Gippsland Power Nathan Drummond Murray Bushrangers Hugh Goddard Geelong Falcons Daniel Howe Murray Bushrangers Tom Lamb Dandenong Stingrays Jack Lonie Dandenong Stingrays Caleb Marchbank Murray Bushrangers Rowan Marshall North Ballarat Rebels Patrick McCartin Geelong Falcons Jaden McGrath Bendigo Pioneers Jackson Nelson Geelong Falcons Lukas Webb Gippsland Power VIC METRO Paul Ahern Calder Cannons Angus Brayshaw Sandringham Dragons Jason Castagna Northern Knights Damien Cavka Calder Cannons Josh Clayton Sandringham Dragons Jordan De Goey Oakleigh Chargers Harry Dear Sandringham Dragons Liam Duggan Western Jets Corey Ellis Western Jets Matthew Goodyear Calder Cannons Billy Gowers Oakleigh Chargers Ed Langdon Sandringham Dragons Kyle Langford Northern Knights Jayden Laverde Western Jets Jake Lever Calder Cannons Brayden Maynard Sandringham Dragons Daniel McKenzie Oakleigh Chargers Reece McKenzie Northern Knights Connor Menadue Western Jets Touk Miller Calder Cannons Darcy Moore Oakleigh Chargers Daniel Nielson Eastern Ranges Brenton Payne Western Jets Christian Petracca Eastern Ranges Marc Pittonet Oakleigh Chargers Ed Vickers-Willis Sandringham Dragons Dillon Viojo-Rainbow Western Jets Peter Wright Calder Cannons WESTERN AUSTRALIA Aidan Anderson Swan Districts Connor Blakely Swan Districts Jack Cripps East Fremantle Josh Deluca Subiaco Billy Frampton South Fremantle Jarrod Garlett South Fremantle Tyler Keitel East Perth Mitch McGovern Claremont Jermaine Miller-Lewis South Fremantle Jarrod Pickett South Fremantle Clem Smith Perth Francis Watson Claremont INTERNATIONAL Marvin Baynham USA Paddy Brophy Ireland Evan Bruinsma USA Connor McKenna Ireland

Terry Wallace did some minor re-jigging of his TAC FUTURE STARS Rolling Draft in today's programme:- 1. St. Kilda Patrick McCartin 2. Melbourne Christian Petracca 3. GWS Giants Peter Wright 4. Brisbane Angus Brayshaw 5. Western Bulldogs Sam Durdin 6. Carlton Paul Ahern 7. Richmond Liam Duggan 8. West Coast Jayden Laverde 9. Adelaide Caleb Marchbank 10. Gold Coast Jarrod Pickett

Does anybody remember the start of this round?

On Saturday, 25 July, 1964 Melbourne ventured to Princes Park for what should have been a leisurely walk in the park against lowly Carlton. It didn't turn out that way. Melbourne 3.2.20 6.4.40 7.6.48 12.8.80 Carlton 4.3.27 4.4.28 7.13.55 9.14.68 THE TEAM B: Neil Crompton Bernie Massey Bob "Tassie" Johnson HB: Tony Anderson Brian Roet Don WIlliams C: Brian Dixon "Hassa" Mann Frank "Bluey" Adams HF: Bryan Kenneally Ray Groom Barrie Vagg F: Graeme Jacobs Barry Bourke Ken Emselle FOLL: Graham Wise Ron Barassi John Townsend 19/20: Frank Davis Graeme Watson Goals Ray Groom 3, Ken Emselle John Townsend 2 Frank Adams Barry Bourke Graeme Jacobs Bryan Kenneally Barrie Vagg Best Bryan Kenneally "Hassa" Mann Ron Barassi Tony Anderson Barrie Vagg Graham Wise The Blues came close to causing the upset of the season in front of 17,831 fans. They led by seven points at the end of third quarter but the Demons stormed home with the aid of the wind to consolidate top spt on the ladder with a win and 23% clear of second placed Geelong.

I don't know who locked the thread but, on my reading it didn't add anything to this site so it was a good idea, as is the closing of this thread quite frankly.

The statistics from the game are interesting. Casey finished with 422 disposals to 345, they had 123 to 68 marks and dominated the hit outs by 69 to 22. I would expect figures like those to produce a reasonably easy win but instead they lost by a goal and in fact, went inside 50 only 43 times to 56. Disposal and decision-making must have been rather ordinary to produce such a result. Dom Barry 8 disposals 2 kicks 6 handballs 1 marks 3 tackles 30 Dream Team Points Matt Clisby 1 goal 28 disposals 15 kicks 13 handballs 8 marks 2 tackles 106 Dream Team Points Jack Fitzpatrick 1 goal 3 behinds 19 disposals 12 kicks 7 handballs 10 marks 2 tackles 30 hit outs 128 Dream Team Points Max Gawn 4 goals 1 point 23 disposals 12 kicks 11 handballs 13 marks 5 tackles 39 hit outs 179 Dream Team Pointsłuî Alexis Georgoiu 10 disposals 7 kicks 3 handballs 6 marks 3 tackles 53 Dream Team Points James Harmes 21 disposals 8 kicks 13 handballs 3 marks 1 tackle 59 Dream Team Points Matt Jones 1 goal 2 behinds 35 disposals 17 kicks 18 handballs 9 marks 5 tackles 139 Dream Team Points Viv Michie 24 disposals 13 kicks 11 handballs 2 marks 7 tackles 93 Dream Team Points Dan Nicholson 39 disposals 23 kicks 16 handballs 11 marks 8 tackles 168 Dream Team Points Christian Salem 1 point 22 disposals 18 kicks 4 handballs 3 marks 4 tackles 85 Dream Team Points James Strauss 35 disposals 22 kicks 13 handballs 11 marks 3 tackles 135 Dream Team Points Maia Westrupp disposals 3 kicks 4 handballs 3 tackles 32 Dream Team Points

Nothing particularly new here but an interesting overview of where the PEDS story sits at the present time from Roy Masters ~ AFL to emerge as big losers from ASADA inquiry but NRL faces rosier report card

This was TAC FUTURE STARS Rolling Draft from today's programme:- 1. St. Kilda Patrick McCartin 2. Brisbane Christian Petracca 3. Melbourne Angus Brayshaw 4. GWS Giants Peter Wright 5. Western Bulldogs Sam Durdin 6. Carlton Paul Ahern 7. Richmond Jarrod Pickett 8. West Coast Jayden Laverde 9. Adelaide Liam Duggan 10. Gold Coast Caleb Marchbank

We've added some pace today in the form of JKH and Sammy Blease. Will it make a difference?

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Frank Davis played his first game for the Melbourne Football Club on this day fifty years ago and, although he was later known as a solid defender, he booted a goal (with his second kick) in Melbourne’s 72 point win in front of 29,631 at the MCG. Melbourne 2.4.16 7.7.49 14.11.95 18.15.123 North Melbourne 1.5.11 4.10.34 4.11.35 6.15.51 THE TEAM B: Neil Crompton Bernie Massey Bob "Tassie" Johnson HB: Tony Anderson Brian Roet Don Williams C: Brian Dixon "Hassa" Mann Graeme Watson HF: Bryan Kenneally Ray Groom Barrie Vagg F: Graeme Jacobs Barry Bourke Ken Emselle FOLL: Graham Wise Ron Barassi John Townsend 19/20: Frank "Bluey" Adams Frank Davis Goals John Townsend 4 Ken Emselle Ray Groom Graeme Jacobs 3 Bryan Kenneally 2 Ron Barassi Frank Davis Hassa Mann Best "Hassa" Mann John Townsend Graeme Jacobs Ken Emselle eil Crompton Don WIlliams The round 13 victory was Melbourne’s ninth consecutive win and sealed the club’s eleventh successive finals appearance, whilst at the same time knocking North Melbourne out of finals calculations.

Well, we might have won the case but it was two years ago so that's one win that won't help us rise up the ladder.

A little off topic but this gives a little insight into how the little business operates ~ Little people are the victims of union-business harassment