VoiceOfReason

Culley is a huge get for us. He will be a star.

Culley is a good fit for our side, he runs, tackles, takes the game on, and repeats his efforts - he really wants to succeed, nothing was given to him. The fact he has a big frame, and athleticism, is something to be excited about. Tholstrup is the opposite, high draft pick, doesn't repeat his efforts, prefers to admire his work, and has had games given to him. If it were up to me I'd move Tholstrup on for a 4th round pick at seasons end, some side might be fooled by the fact he was drafted early on the board.

I don't think Goody was a factor. If anything the players appeared to enjoy the day more, and didn't compound as easy - as we usually do. Perhaps that was due to Goodwin not burdening the club anymore.

All players wanting to be in the midfield that aren't currently in there, use the pre-season to work on your deficiencies, and strengthen up on your weaknesses. Judd looks to have a lot of talent, but as a midfielder, he would be too easily pushed off the ball. if he wants to be a midfielder, stop whinging about it, and hit the gym, smash the sprints, work on your core, get your body right, and demand the position in a way Ed Richards has for the Bulldogs. Same goes for any of our younger brigade, there is room to push out the star (so-called) midfield players, but actions speak louder than words.

I agree. In an ideal world, we move on Petracca and Viney.

He's 29. We'd be happy for Carltons first - that Hawthorn have. I doubt we'd even get that. In saying that, Hawthorn don't strike me as a draft side. They've had quality picks, squandered them, and are still where they are. Petracca fits well with their trajectory.

Looks like a quality talent. Exactly the type of player we need. I can see why Eagles supporters rated him.

I tend to agree. Their value is that low, that it now makes no sense to trade them. I think we shopped them around last year, and the value just wasn't there, so it won't be there this year. We do however, need to get back into the first round.

Freo shown interest in Gus leading up to his last contract. We should have offloaded him. He already had concussion issues at that point. I don't understand why AFL clubs aren't as cut throat as other sports. Now we are stuck paying for a player who isn't at the club. Clubs have to be smart. Same as when Viney tried to hold out for more coin, and threaten to leave to North. We should've said 'thanks for your service and good luck'. Instead we moved Grundy and ANB for a packet of chips, and both would run rings around our current lot. Grundy is a near AA. Tim Lamb is as bad as it gets, and sadly, we have him.

Its just been an accumulation of issues, from replacing a good board - with an incompetent one, then to having no board whilst candidates are on holidays, or not wanting the job yet. Clubs need a strong, stable, and competent board. That is where it all starts, and funnels down to the players. Currently, our players are a reflection of the club more broadly. We are a club in disarray. An example of a club in disarray, is multiple star players wanting out, and glued on father and sons shopping themselves around.

Low IQ coach. Fluked a flag. Wasted the best collective group of talent we've had at the club in 30 years - arguably more. Sooner he is sacked the better.

Looked over the line.

That is exactly what I see, and also, have never seen anything to suggest he should've been drafted at all - let alone at pick 13.

Adelaide also offered us the Curtin pick, as part of the Petty deal we knocked back. So we could have had both. Curtin is miles ahead of both, generational player. Good judges were saying he was before draft, and he certainly is.

I'd move both on. Try prize out a promising young talent from another side.

I agree. I'd be looking to build a midfield around VIney. Get Viney to lead the younger brigade, he'd add protection, and show them how a leader applies themselves. There is a reason North wanted him.

Petracca and Oliver, thanks for your service.

Rivers was smashing them early, and then the genius puts him down back, where he has barely touched it since. Outside of Rivers, Viney tries hard. I'd be moving Petracca and Oliver on at years end.

Unathletic and not much chop, was a baffling decision to select him ahead of Wilson - then and now.

Who is playing on Curtin?

Im not only in the goodbye Goodwin camp, but I won't even be watching any more games whilst he remains as coach. Our gameplan is just too frustrating to watch, not to mention our wasteful forward 50 entries, and inaccurate goal kicking. I can find better ways to spend the weekend than watch this current side. Ive been a 40 year member, but won't be renewing next year as it stands.

Langford is different gravy. If posters are turning on Windsor its because - at least this year - hes been a terrible kick. Turnover merchants frustrate posters. In terms of Windsor vs Caddy, ill leave that for the talent scouts. Caddy wasn't the only one on the board, Curtin looks quality.

The players say they want to play for Goodwin, but actions suggest otherwise. The effort might be there, but that is about it. Wasteful football in 2/3's of the ground. Oliver and Petracca looked to have checked out.

Well outlined. I agree with that. Its the club that continues to make poor decisions. Therefore it should come as little surprise that we are stuck with a low IQ coach like Goodwin.

Port are sh*thouse. They get gifted everything in home games, its why they achieve nothing down the G. Im switching it off, the umpiring against us most weeks is criminal. I will watch the replay should we win. Have a good game everyone,