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Hey, given each trade is both between both the new club and the player (more player's agent ) AND new club and old club how does that actually work? Obviously these two arrangements can clash. So looking at now if in the last hour of the trade period there's a standoff between Gold Coast and Melbourne can Tracc agree to reduce his salary with GC as a final enticement for them to agree with Melbourne's terms? And what about if a GC player is thrown into a deal late? Does this player have any say? Could he suddenly be offloaded to Melbourne and minutes after the trades finish all he knows he's a Demon .... but no talk re his new salary? Its fascinating how trades rely on both arrangements of player and club AND club and club.

Umm most of the time the Brownlow is won by a player with superstars in his team and often such teams bank a lot of wins helping the player get a few more votes. We just saw Rowell win despite Anderson stealing votes. On top of that if Anderson missed most of the year and Gold Coast win 4 less games he might have lost 7 votes and gained 7 his teammate 'stole'. Honestly if Trac had been more accurate a game here or there with 2 more shots from 40 going through in a year where he came second 3 extra votes get him on the podium.

Did we actually bottom out after 2006? After making week 2 of that year's finals i reckon nearly everyone thought we could reach the finals in 2007. Instead we kept losing close games and after a tiny recovery (similar to us beating Lions and Sydney in a fortnight this year) we were maybe 2-11 and Daniher left. The nect two years we were 1-10. Again i doubt we were bottoming out as a tactic - our cupboard was just bare. I get the feeling that if somehow we did what Hawthorn did 2 seasons ago and wnet from 1-6 to 14-9 or so we would've embraced it. Im sure some coaches (hello, Ross Lyon) keep persisting with older stars too long leaving the next generation underdeveloped . I'm just not sure clubs have deliberately ruined their teams for 'magical' draft picks. Otherwise i agree with your post

Yep! That gypsy said Gawn's gonna marry Katy Perry.

An unlocked window? Maybe we could open it with a Lever.

Umm, did King plan to move on Trac?! Are May and Oliver still A grade? Recent years suggest no. And if players are actually ruining team morale/ culture get rid of them now.

Sorry, are you saying Roos and Goody weren't confident?!

That seems problematic. If Petracca knew he was leaving he would've had to tell everyone before his last match. There's no rule. But unlike the NRL it's not commonly done. Besides, any money the majority of our fans would've booed rather cheered this send-off . Similarly even if before May smirked, while Gawn talked of learning to win the close games, his fate has been decided players arent normally told this during the season. Then theres Oliver whose fate may have depended on a coach that, short of us rushing to choose Buckley, was never going to put in the due diligence Oliver's future deserved while also flat out with their current team's prep for the finals. Im not sure how this send-off wouldve worked.

Umm Frost has been delisted.

I'm also reminded of Blight starting at the Crows. He got rid of Tony McGuinness, Chris McDermott, Andrew Jarman and the fans were furious. I doubt it's identical but the Crows went from being clapped off the ground after losing comfortably to an extremely new Port Adelaide team to months later win the first of two consecutive flags. King's first week could turn out to be inspired.

These players? (Their age the night of our last game) Chandler, Kade 25y 221d 79 (39-0-40 49.37%) 60 (0.76) ← 35 Petty, Harry 25y 283d 101 (51-1-49 50.99%) 48 (0.48) ← 32 Sparrow, Tom 25y 83d 117 (67-1-49 57.69%) 44 (0.38) ← 36 Pickett, Kysaiah 24y 81d 126 (75-1-50 59.92%) 201 (1.60) ← 24 Rivers, Trent 24y 23d 123 (72-1-50 58.94%) 13 (0.11) ← 10 Turner, Daniel 23y 206d 37 (14-0-23 37.84%) 24 (0.65) ← 17 Bowey, Jake 22y 344d BTW on the same night Lipinski, Patrick 27y 36d 139 (85-2-52 61.87%) 70 (0.50) 83 (54-2-27 66.27%) 40 (0.48) 8 Schultz, Lachie 27y 265d 124 (61-3-60 50.40%) 137 (1.10) 34 (18-2-14 55.88%) 36 (1.06) 7 Daicos, Josh 26y 269d 149 (89-3-57 60.74%) 67 (0.45) ← 12 Perryman, Harry 26y 246d 152 (84-1-67 55.59%) 32 (0.21) 23 (16-0-7 69.57%) 4 (0.17) 3 Quaynor, Isaac 25y 219d 131 (78-2-51 60.31%) 5 (0.04) ← 31 McCreery, Beau 24y 125d

It's funny. This feels like Melbourne is 3 goals down early in a match. No supporter wants that start. But often teams win from there. People were screaming for Goody to be sacked. Even most of the rest of us soon after King's selection got on board and agreed to hold back on judgement and the trademark Melbourne pessimism. Now suddenly, days after he's started, so many have their knickers in a twist. What were you expecting ? Throw that infamous soccer ball in the bin, run a few extra laps and practise more kicking at goal? Sure, delisting Gawn and Kosi this week would have been preposterous. But surely we expected King would do things - be a mover and a shaker. Honestly we really have no feedback yet - we really have none until early in round 1. And remember even if we're three goals down early we can still win that game. Cripes, even with a round one loss we could do well next year or prove the year after that King ( and maybe the current expected list changes) has been great.

Do you mean exactly 24- 28? Trac and May are well past that and Oliver is 29 next July. Surely if next year he has another horribly ordinary year as a midfielder polling no Brownlow votes but earning well over a million this isn't gonna help our team much. Quite simply we're not suddenly offloading two or three players in their prime that match it with anyone.

Yep, I would have last played it well over 40 years ago. The photo here proves you're right and the second time I described this game. https://auctions.leski.com.au/lot-details/index/catalog/616/lot/210893/TEST-MATCH-A-Fascinating-Cricket-Game-produced-by-John-Sands-Pty-Ltd-in-the-mid-1950s-Complete-and-in-working-condition-in-the-o

Hmm, I had a second game where you kind of spun ... moved a wheel under a panel and it would come up with a 'result' each time - 4 ... 6 ... 1... 0.... wicket. Neither of these game had anything to do with the actual sport.😂

Werribee, you don't seem to rate Brownlows. Anyway.... What I think is interesting how often top ten selections don't realise their potential and then go to another club ..... and don't realise their potential. Yep, some of these players had their careers cruelled by injury and the occasional ones like Dom Tyson and Tomlinson look they've now made it BUT not permanently. And I'd say we picked 7 of these second-chancers. Apart from maybe Tyson the "sell high, buy low" strategy of redeeming these high-draft underperformers just doesn't work (,maybe)

Is that the game with the figurines, including the bowler with the seesaw arm and batter with moveable bat and the tiny metallic ball? 😃

It's a little misleading judging team or forward line success merely from GF performances. While you have to play well in them if you can't even make them who cares. If we could do a straight swap of McVee for Jeremy Cameron are you gonna argue we shouldn't?

Hmm, Lamb trading a butcher.

I guess we just have to have faith. We have a new coach and the fortunes or attitudes of our players improve markedly next year. Hopefully our recruiters will work out a great resolution for the current Trac business, either way. I think binman says he tries his best to not fret too much about trade rumours/eventual trades and I concur. We can do nothing asmere fans. Our team's fortune will improve some time and for all we know King is a gun and Petracca watches on as Melbourne win the flags from 2028-30 while his new team, even if regular finalists, loses a GF how Geelong just did and otherwise is on holiday every time come.mid-September

No. I would assume from what I've heard and the fact Petracca was a star pre-injury and Goodwin a lauded coach that there was plenty of love and respect as both helped Melbourne thrive. But things can change and I've been wrong before. 😂

That's harsh. He had a horrible injury and both the team and his own form since has been frustrating. Then he loses the coach he loved. I sure hope he stays and sees what King can do. But people will often feel like a change. After a decade with a team a move to a new club and city might be incredibly beneficial - no different to one of us leaving Melbourne for rural Tasmania or Brisbane and going from stockbroker to florist.

Wow! Imagine your doctor giving your medical test results in make-up like this, especially if he had just said unicorns on Mars made the moon. 🤣

Channel 9 news said an upcoming story is that a Demon young gun wants out. McVee?

Huh? Is this about our small forwards or our love of snow (and skiing)?