Go Ds

Indeed. Maybe King will bring a recently successful recruiter with him. Maybe the current ones can improve. The underwhelming trades above are a big reason why we're now a weaker team but, yeah, most may be honest, understandable mistakes.

BTW is Sam Frost the most photogenic player ever? 😂😂😂

Umm, he isn't Betts or Ablett jnr. Surely we're not replacing an old and problematic All Australian defender with an old and problematic NON-All Australian defender. Frosty probably gave it his all - the supporters of two clubs should feel grateful tonight.

VFL Park got so damn loud when Melbourne struck back. Apart the early part this was a great and exciting game. Also West Coast should have successfully kicked that final shot at goal. We were a little lucky.

Often there's an explanation for each trade. There may be way more bad luck than we realise (and we can forget just how little we gave up on some trades AND that looking back in the archives often there was almost complete agreement with these moved). There are probably better recruiters with some clubs. But ours are not the equivalent of a full forward who can't mark, can't lead, can't handball and even fluffs shots from just outside the goal square.

Gotta love a bit of revisionism. Liberals were probably about to be voted out yet for no reason they guaranteed payment for a road Labor were saying they were going to cancel. Was this Liberal incompetence or corruption? Funny how no one will entertain them, for what? 11 years now? (And, no, I don't particularly want politics on a football page)

If a team can get the next 10 Rising Stars and Brownlow medallists but barely make finals in that time who cares? All that matters is outscoring one's opponent hence winning more games hence finishing higher on the ladder etc etc and winning flags NOT any of these bloody awards.

can someone explain B&F to me? Is it something like 10 points for best player all the way down to 1 point for the team's 10th best player for the day? I'm not discounting the award but in a bad year/thrashing a fairly ordinary effort will be a quite hollow gong. Also a player who's consistently among the better players ( but not among best on ground) and plays every game will finishes higher with a higher rankings than the club overall has him at. And finally how did Melbourne legend Robbie only win one B&F?!!

Before his awful injury Trac was first or second in last year's Brownlow tally. Yes, his disposals arent perfect but he was up among the very best players for four or five years. He'd be the perfect player for quite a few teams to go after - they pay unders , he returns to top form and even wins next year's Brownlow (and another premiership medallion) He'll be 30, not 36. And god forbid if a niggling long-term complaint is fixed by new doctors or some mindfulness-type technique has him regain his poise and his disposal efficiency is never questioned again. I sure hope King and his new team can work their wonders on this star. I sure hope he has next year and they can try to 'redeem' him.

Yep, especially from 2007 to 2017 (and also 2019-20) and I can't stand the thought of 2026 being a third year of hell after the current ones too (and with the hope King breaks the circuit and we recover our mojo). Anyway, thank god for 2021! (Otherwise I'd now be following the Vixens!)

Tears it up? That's like saying Macbeth to actors in a theatre

Gawn played 4 games in 3 years mainly due to injury. This guy ain't Gawn but we receive nothing if we delist him

Who's Heath? Do you give #1 to an untried player????

Kudos someone bothered making this but as someone who had to go through decades of grief to finally see our team win a flag while from primary school onwards Carlton won 5 flags and Essendon 4 the ladder is laughable. And while watching Collingwood lose lots of GFs would have infuriated fans they have still won 3 flags(including one more recently), making GF s is still some feat and I'd guess they've finished above us probably 22 out of the last 25 years. Yet they have way more emotional baggage?!

It's certainly perspective. Richmond or WCE would have loved the season we just suffered. Of course the likes of Brisbane and Geelong would have hated it.

Just imagine if you met a psychic or a supposed time traveller from 2025 , say, on Grand Final eve 2001, hours before Essendon play Brisbane. You'd give them a weird look when they say Essendon had barely won an elimination final 24 years later and an even stronger one after adding Carlton are in the same boat. Almost all of us have lived the weird contrast of the decades before and after 2000 for these now-losers.

No, buck and @Little Goffy . As I said it was Saints, Freo and then maybe Essendon. Ghostwriter found a new link. There is a ladder included

Is anyone honestly surprised by this? May turns 34 in January and was already looking well past his prime. If realistically we're still 3 years away from going deep into September he'd be almost 37 by then. Even with a new start his body might chuck it in halfway through next year. And we all know he's abrasive. I've no idea what he said/did when Max recently talked about no longer losing the close games but it certainty was bad optics. (Admittedly it may that he honestly knows of the team.flaws and was cynical but truthful in his reaction to Gawn. Fingers crossed that's not so .) I'm guessing May's days were numbered. The coach candidates were asked who Melbourne's best 23 were and I'm sure the best candidates went into great detail about most players and volunteered who should be up for trade. King probably point blank said May should go while the board nodded. This May trade is probably the first decision King's made and probably the one he's most confident about.

Thank you. You are 100 % correct. It came up on Facebook and the article had Dave Hughes discussing football heartbreak on Perth radio. It would have been nice if I could've just found the ladder and the calculations for it to post on here. Oh well. (Honestly every third thread on here is about how unlucky we are..😂)

There are quite a few of his contemporaries, even opponents, that rave about him. He wasn't necessarily the best player of his time but many of these players insist there should be a statue of him at the MCG, and similar. Working Dog/D Generation comedian Rob Sitch got to chat to Flower about playing football. Flower would be answering "oh I'd just do this" or " just do that" and it was obvious he couldn't explain his natural flair and talent which was highlighted when he did the spectacular.

I can't take this that seriously anyway but someone calculated which team is the hardest to Barrack for. I would have loved to see the input. Anyway the worst were St Kilda and Freo. With our recent ish flag we're near the bottom. https://www.mitchellandness.com.au/pages/ebi?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22988440224&gbraid=0AAAAACWx6pWj_wjW8eg5dwngPZG8N5W2E&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuKnGBhD5ARIsAD19RsY-r4KAyJ6y8IrQbjtaqXqRuiN_6MqoUcmJHE_NQwbnLBmfZK16sIUaAjerEALw_wcB

While we're at it let's have Melbourne beating Geelong that day by 30 goals and winning the next 8 premierships. (This is beginning to feel like Total Recall.) 😂

Yep, and 2025 too! 😁

Ok. At first I just felt the poll question was just a silly, pointless piece of diversion and overthinking. But sometimes great ideas can grow from such games ( and, my, especially on the internet so many refuse to do the intellectual equivalent of walking from their bed to their couch each day.) I still feel that there's no real problem with King in his current situation. One can be a husband, father, son, friend, employee all at once yet separately. Most people can go from being a waiter on Friday and starting at a law firm or primary school or hospital on Monday in a brand new career and most people could go from a similar role in an insurance company to one in an electronics one. I'm sure when Neal-Bullen was traded or Billings delisted they weren't privy to Melbourne's plans for the following year. Neither will Scott be discussing such stuff with King. But overall the transition from different companies is not particularly problematic.