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It's certainly perspective. Richmond or WCE would have loved the season we just suffered. Of course the likes of Brisbane and Geelong would have hated it.

Just imagine if you met a psychic or a supposed time traveller from 2025 , say, on Grand Final eve 2001, hours before Essendon play Brisbane. You'd give them a weird look when they say Essendon had barely won an elimination final 24 years later and an even stronger one after adding Carlton are in the same boat. Almost all of us have lived the weird contrast of the decades before and after 2000 for these now-losers.

No, buck and @Little Goffy . As I said it was Saints, Freo and then maybe Essendon. Ghostwriter found a new link. There is a ladder included

Is anyone honestly surprised by this? May turns 34 in January and was already looking well past his prime. If realistically we're still 3 years away from going deep into September he'd be almost 37 by then. Even with a new start his body might chuck it in halfway through next year. And we all know he's abrasive. I've no idea what he said/did when Max recently talked about no longer losing the close games but it certainty was bad optics. (Admittedly it may that he honestly knows of the team.flaws and was cynical but truthful in his reaction to Gawn. Fingers crossed that's not so .) I'm guessing May's days were numbered. The coach candidates were asked who Melbourne's best 23 were and I'm sure the best candidates went into great detail about most players and volunteered who should be up for trade. King probably point blank said May should go while the board nodded. This May trade is probably the first decision King's made and probably the one he's most confident about.

Thank you. You are 100 % correct. It came up on Facebook and the article had Dave Hughes discussing football heartbreak on Perth radio. It would have been nice if I could've just found the ladder and the calculations for it to post on here. Oh well. (Honestly every third thread on here is about how unlucky we are..😂)

There are quite a few of his contemporaries, even opponents, that rave about him. He wasn't necessarily the best player of his time but many of these players insist there should be a statue of him at the MCG, and similar. Working Dog/D Generation comedian Rob Sitch got to chat to Flower about playing football. Flower would be answering "oh I'd just do this" or " just do that" and it was obvious he couldn't explain his natural flair and talent which was highlighted when he did the spectacular.

I can't take this that seriously anyway but someone calculated which team is the hardest to Barrack for. I would have loved to see the input. Anyway the worst were St Kilda and Freo. With our recent ish flag we're near the bottom. https://www.mitchellandness.com.au/pages/ebi?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22988440224&gbraid=0AAAAACWx6pWj_wjW8eg5dwngPZG8N5W2E&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuKnGBhD5ARIsAD19RsY-r4KAyJ6y8IrQbjtaqXqRuiN_6MqoUcmJHE_NQwbnLBmfZK16sIUaAjerEALw_wcB

While we're at it let's have Melbourne beating Geelong that day by 30 goals and winning the next 8 premierships. (This is beginning to feel like Total Recall.) 😂

Yep, and 2025 too! 😁

Ok. At first I just felt the poll question was just a silly, pointless piece of diversion and overthinking. But sometimes great ideas can grow from such games ( and, my, especially on the internet so many refuse to do the intellectual equivalent of walking from their bed to their couch each day.) I still feel that there's no real problem with King in his current situation. One can be a husband, father, son, friend, employee all at once yet separately. Most people can go from being a waiter on Friday and starting at a law firm or primary school or hospital on Monday in a brand new career and most people could go from a similar role in an insurance company to one in an electronics one. I'm sure when Neal-Bullen was traded or Billings delisted they weren't privy to Melbourne's plans for the following year. Neither will Scott be discussing such stuff with King. But overall the transition from different companies is not particularly problematic.

A few days after grand final is not next year. What's the solution? Nowadays after a midyear sacking few teams try to do anything more than use their assistant coach as caretaker / stopgap. Like we just did for obvious reasons clubs interview assistant coaches busy with another team still in contention for the flag. I'm sure Scott and Fagan would have preferred their assistants, already busy, not to have given up a huge number of valuable hours making a full-on professional presentation for our coach position. So what then? Should Melbourne have started the process in October, either rushing it or going into trade period without a coach? Surely not! So should Scott forbid his assistants from applying for jobs preOctober? I don't think they'd appreciate that , even if every team had that rule . Similarly in an even year with as good as four equal favourites right now imagine your brilliant assistant resigning right now and hence an elusive flag is missed. I really don't understand the argument against someone like King having this strange transition period in two roles. I'm sure he's not sabotaging Geelong or is too focused on us. If coaches want the best assistants and clubs for their new coach want the best assistants there just has to be this compromised, limbo period like King's currently in. If not, what's the alternative?!

He could have a chat with Taranto and Hopper how going to Richmond worked. Even Buckley probably stuffed up not staying at Brisbane. If a player leaves for the wrong reason it can well backfire.

I don't know enough about players from the 50s to 70s but just looking at premiership coaches it really looks like your stat is wrong. 😂 ( I could only add Norm Smith)

BTW who? Barassi, Clarkson , Beveridge, who else?

Interesting but useless. There do seem to be patterns where a swathe of future great coaches previously played or were coach assistants under a legendary coach. But your stat at best will appear in a few year's time when Useless AFL Stats points out how Melbourne players win flags and now Geelong got one coaching a premiership. 😉

I haven't watched much OTC this year but could be half-right? A team like Essendon racked with injuries is still gonna struggle with a great plan and the most talented list with a similar plan will beat them.

Marginal is a good description. A player with a niggling foot injury goes from just getting the ball and handballing while tackled to instead being the opposition watching the opponent's handball get away. A player not realising he has an extra half-second is more likely to fumble or stuff up his disposal. A hail Mary kicked from the boundary that scrapes the goalpost is demoralising , reminding the team of an aberrant inside 50, is very different to an accurate one that wows everyone in the replays and changesmomentum. Of course current words guarantee nothing but if individual players and the team dynamic can improve with renewed confidence alone that might see us shoot up the ladder way more than expected.

There was...this conference was less than half an hour ago. I was watching some live on Foxtel's Sports News channel

Because of our appointment from out of nowhere I asked a Carlton supporter friend what Stephen King books he's read. We had a nice little conversation! Our Steven King is raising literary awareness. 😂😂😂

Ok. But I was referring to Buckley coaching us after 4 and a half years or recycled coaches in general. I'm sure there is a cut-off point when a coach is obsolete but what is it? Bucks is obviously still watching lots of footy and some coach things such as leadership and establishing would probably never disappear. Anyway if a coach candidate is too far out of the loop surely they're not wowing the selection panel anyway.

I still don't get this stand against recycled coaches. As long as they weren't hopeless i'd have thought five years as a senior coach was better than five as assistant. Blight went to Adelaide as a coach who nearly won a GF and as a player won the Brownlow and Magarey(?) medal. Buckley nearly....... Anyway we didn't choose Buckley. I just know he may well been a great choice. Surely another recycled coach will emulate Blight some day.

Are you taking him with the girls to Bingo and mojitos on Tuesday night? 😂

Some people love a challenge. If Buckley got Tasmania from basket case to premiership in , say, five years it'd be the stuff of legend and some people would love having that legacy. It's easy to forget that coaching Melbourne means a (Melbourne- based) person's life is not uprooted whereas moving , working and being about as important and as well-known in Tasmania as the premier may cause extra snags for the first Tassie coach. Certainly I could see why potential coaches would avoid the Devils and wait for teams like Essendon and Carlton be looking again.

Can you explain this further? I'm not sure Buckley has lied at all. It is possible since Melbourne started their coach search he always genuinely considered both Tassie and us, yes?

Just get the '2' on your left cheek and for the last 2 digits wait ! 😉🤣🤣🤣