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Huh? You're basing this on 22 weeks of a Melbourne legend on a show? Even if he wasn't watching each round as a frustrated Melbourne supporter do you have any actual evidence we didn't regularly have one opponent carving us up?!

It's all good, mate. I don't know much about you but there are plenty on here who are only happy when they've got something to complain about.

You do realise this conversation was about comments like this? "Not earth shattering news to say that the two key coaches think the team is on track"

Yeah, and Tony Lockett missed some shots at goal. Your point?

How about the premiership coach who potentially thinks Melbourne can win the whole thing next year?!

Support by the miserable sods that ended up on Demonland?

Those aren't bad things. But surely his close GF loss eclipses any of them.

Hehe I ended up watching the first two episodes on YouTube last night. Minder was more something my parents watched. But it was kinda good - better than the 25 footy shows on Monday night :)

I dunno. I'm sure people have looked at/ listened to stuff older people have raved about and scratched their heads. But who knows - maybe you'd enjoy 80s Brit show, Minder, with the dodgy Arthur Daley and his muscle Terry.

No! I'm not excusing 96 minutes of last week. But it's disingenuous to argue that Hawthorn aren't trying to finish as high as they can. I know when we missed finals in 2017 by a bee's appendage we had a late game against lowly Carlton where we coughed up a lot of late goals. It was easy to forget as Collingwood won and Adelaide rested players that we still would've gotten through on percentage but for the Carlton lapse. Hawthorn might rue their late lapse too. BTW if people want to look at the St Kilda comeback and our other close losses and say "yes, but scoreboard!" they should be saying the same about last week and accepting the "inaccurate" margin.

24 years?! If you're including as a player and assistant coach doesn't that mean he won on 2010?

Those three late goals dropped Hawthorn below where finished up after their Adelaide game. Mitchell would be furious if that had been the final round.

Hawthorn is 122.7 Collingwood is better at 123.1 If both teams win by a similar margin next week Collingwood gets to stay home and play Geelong while Hawthorn goes off to Adelaide. Surely "any top 4 will do" is BS. On top of that Brisbane could easily beat Hawthorn and teams below the Hawks might overtake them. Hawthorn very easily could end up interstate in week 1 and be eliminated that early. Didyou even look at the ladder?

Guys, are the team playing the same system Goody was trying to implement with the seniors?

I've especially noticed how badly teams do with only 5 days compared to 7 or more. So I half-agree with Wells11. But as the less-rested side is 6days to 8 days or 7 to 9 does the two or three day difference matter less? I would have assumed so. Also, same as playing interstate, teams now have decades of experience and information for coping with 6-day breaks. Aren't teams getting better at this? The rest of what you said I wholeheartedly agree with. Freo and Suns thrashed this week. Collingwood, GWS and Brisbane all also recently had awful days against top 4/8 teams. I want to see Melbourne back at the top. But yesterday wasn't Geelong 2011. It wasn't even the Freo shellacking last year.

I take your point but shouldn't teams be able to handle six-day breaks? Everyone of them has many a year so ones that can't cope are stuffed.

Gee, I sure hope no one thought sacking Goody would automatically have players motivated or unburdened. The last two games have had a lot of the same good and bad stuff we've seen all year.

No, there are so many factors. Many we'll never be privy to.

Umm, Richmond lost by 19 goals in the last round of 2016. You can't base everything off today or recent months.

I'm not sure what you think you read. You just agreed with me!

I'm not sure how the first 2 paragraphs apply to me. I'm only saying that for a struggling team a coach sacking won't necessarily improve things. As for Goodwin I'm sure you know he took a struggling side to a drought-breaking premiership. To claim that's not success is well...... gibberish.

Why would you bring up Essendon and St Kilda?! For a period longer than most marriages, people's full academic experiences and pets' lives Sheedy was Essendon coach. Essendon had stability and it helped them have success. Eighteen years on they've had SIX permanent coaches and even though two had won premierships elsewhere they've barely even limped into finals series. Maybe Scott (also with some success elsewhere) will still turn things around but I didn't expect them to do much this year even without injuries. Then there's St Kilda. Sure, the three coaches between Lyon's stints averaging four years each is better but hardly stable stable. Again another team got a previously successful and again here's evidence it's not a panacea. Clubs rush to sack coaches too fast and plenty find out that even a proven coach was NOT the magic bullet. And of course then they have the potential dilemma of having yet another - a third - coach in four or five years or soldier on with one that hasn't worked out. I sure hope our board isn't there three or four years from now - especially given we had an extremely successful coach.

You said "But some people here have very short memories. They talked about contending for a flag at the start of the year" That's not the same as brilliant? Anyway Goodwin's gone. This is irrelevant now.

So "Google it!"? No! That's just a copout. The burden of proof is on you. Everyone who's ever touched a Sheerin knows about our horror start. What of it? If anything the few that actually expected a brilliant year got a rude awakening.

I'm sure there are years where the inner sanctum know the odds are wrong. Apparently at the start of 21 Goody told Mike Sheehan that barring injuries we'd win the whole thing. I dunno. I get the feeling that a side all set for late September would have had maybe two debutants and three others with games under their belt. Also I really think some forget how a few years ago week after week Oliver and Trac would be in the coaches votes and poll well in the Brownlow. While I wish injuries on no one i'd happily have see 3 or 4 (bar Gawn, Kosi ..) miss big parts of this year in exchange for Trac and Clarry performing at their '22 level.