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Gotta love a bit of revisionism. Liberals were probably about to be voted out yet for no reason they guaranteed payment for a road Labor were saying they were going to cancel. Was this Liberal incompetence or corruption? Funny how no one will entertain them, for what? 11 years now? (And, no, I don't particularly want politics on a football page)

If a team can get the next 10 Rising Stars and Brownlow medallists but barely make finals in that time who cares? All that matters is outscoring one's opponent hence winning more games hence finishing higher on the ladder etc etc and winning flags NOT any of these bloody awards.

can someone explain B&F to me? Is it something like 10 points for best player all the way down to 1 point for the team's 10th best player for the day? I'm not discounting the award but in a bad year/thrashing a fairly ordinary effort will be a quite hollow gong. Also a player who's consistently among the better players ( but not among best on ground) and plays every game will finishes higher with a higher rankings than the club overall has him at. And finally how did Melbourne legend Robbie only win one B&F?!!

Before his awful injury Trac was first or second in last year's Brownlow tally. Yes, his disposals arent perfect but he was up among the very best players for four or five years. He'd be the perfect player for quite a few teams to go after - they pay unders , he returns to top form and even wins next year's Brownlow (and another premiership medallion) He'll be 30, not 36. And god forbid if a niggling long-term complaint is fixed by new doctors or some mindfulness-type technique has him regain his poise and his disposal efficiency is never questioned again. I sure hope King and his new team can work their wonders on this star. I sure hope he has next year and they can try to 'redeem' him.

Yep, especially from 2007 to 2017 (and also 2019-20) and I can't stand the thought of 2026 being a third year of hell after the current ones too (and with the hope King breaks the circuit and we recover our mojo). Anyway, thank god for 2021! (Otherwise I'd now be following the Vixens!)

Tears it up? That's like saying Macbeth to actors in a theatre

Gawn played 4 games in 3 years mainly due to injury. This guy ain't Gawn but we receive nothing if we delist him

Who's Heath? Do you give #1 to an untried player????

Kudos someone bothered making this but as someone who had to go through decades of grief to finally see our team win a flag while from primary school onwards Carlton won 5 flags and Essendon 4 the ladder is laughable. And while watching Collingwood lose lots of GFs would have infuriated fans they have still won 3 flags(including one more recently), making GF s is still some feat and I'd guess they've finished above us probably 22 out of the last 25 years. Yet they have way more emotional baggage?!

It's certainly perspective. Richmond or WCE would have loved the season we just suffered. Of course the likes of Brisbane and Geelong would have hated it.

Just imagine if you met a psychic or a supposed time traveller from 2025 , say, on Grand Final eve 2001, hours before Essendon play Brisbane. You'd give them a weird look when they say Essendon had barely won an elimination final 24 years later and an even stronger one after adding Carlton are in the same boat. Almost all of us have lived the weird contrast of the decades before and after 2000 for these now-losers.

No, buck and @Little Goffy . As I said it was Saints, Freo and then maybe Essendon. Ghostwriter found a new link. There is a ladder included

Thank you. You are 100 % correct. It came up on Facebook and the article had Dave Hughes discussing football heartbreak on Perth radio. It would have been nice if I could've just found the ladder and the calculations for it to post on here. Oh well. (Honestly every third thread on here is about how unlucky we are..😂)

There are quite a few of his contemporaries, even opponents, that rave about him. He wasn't necessarily the best player of his time but many of these players insist there should be a statue of him at the MCG, and similar. Working Dog/D Generation comedian Rob Sitch got to chat to Flower about playing football. Flower would be answering "oh I'd just do this" or " just do that" and it was obvious he couldn't explain his natural flair and talent which was highlighted when he did the spectacular.

I can't take this that seriously anyway but someone calculated which team is the hardest to Barrack for. I would have loved to see the input. Anyway the worst were St Kilda and Freo. With our recent ish flag we're near the bottom. https://www.mitchellandness.com.au/pages/ebi?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22988440224&gbraid=0AAAAACWx6pWj_wjW8eg5dwngPZG8N5W2E&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuKnGBhD5ARIsAD19RsY-r4KAyJ6y8IrQbjtaqXqRuiN_6MqoUcmJHE_NQwbnLBmfZK16sIUaAjerEALw_wcB

While we're at it let's have Melbourne beating Geelong that day by 30 goals and winning the next 8 premierships. (This is beginning to feel like Total Recall.) 😂

Yep, and 2025 too! 😁

Ok. At first I just felt the poll question was just a silly, pointless piece of diversion and overthinking. But sometimes great ideas can grow from such games ( and, my, especially on the internet so many refuse to do the intellectual equivalent of walking from their bed to their couch each day.) I still feel that there's no real problem with King in his current situation. One can be a husband, father, son, friend, employee all at once yet separately. Most people can go from being a waiter on Friday and starting at a law firm or primary school or hospital on Monday in a brand new career and most people could go from a similar role in an insurance company to one in an electronics one. I'm sure when Neal-Bullen was traded or Billings delisted they weren't privy to Melbourne's plans for the following year. Neither will Scott be discussing such stuff with King. But overall the transition from different companies is not particularly problematic.

A few days after grand final is not next year. What's the solution? Nowadays after a midyear sacking few teams try to do anything more than use their assistant coach as caretaker / stopgap. Like we just did for obvious reasons clubs interview assistant coaches busy with another team still in contention for the flag. I'm sure Scott and Fagan would have preferred their assistants, already busy, not to have given up a huge number of valuable hours making a full-on professional presentation for our coach position. So what then? Should Melbourne have started the process in October, either rushing it or going into trade period without a coach? Surely not! So should Scott forbid his assistants from applying for jobs preOctober? I don't think they'd appreciate that , even if every team had that rule . Similarly in an even year with as good as four equal favourites right now imagine your brilliant assistant resigning right now and hence an elusive flag is missed. I really don't understand the argument against someone like King having this strange transition period in two roles. I'm sure he's not sabotaging Geelong or is too focused on us. If coaches want the best assistants and clubs for their new coach want the best assistants there just has to be this compromised, limbo period like King's currently in. If not, what's the alternative?!

He could have a chat with Taranto and Hopper how going to Richmond worked. Even Buckley probably stuffed up not staying at Brisbane. If a player leaves for the wrong reason it can well backfire.

I don't know enough about players from the 50s to 70s but just looking at premiership coaches it really looks like your stat is wrong. 😂 ( I could only add Norm Smith)

BTW who? Barassi, Clarkson , Beveridge, who else?

Interesting but useless. There do seem to be patterns where a swathe of future great coaches previously played or were coach assistants under a legendary coach. But your stat at best will appear in a few year's time when Useless AFL Stats points out how Melbourne players win flags and now Geelong got one coaching a premiership. 😉

I haven't watched much OTC this year but could be half-right? A team like Essendon racked with injuries is still gonna struggle with a great plan and the most talented list with a similar plan will beat them.

Marginal is a good description. A player with a niggling foot injury goes from just getting the ball and handballing while tackled to instead being the opposition watching the opponent's handball get away. A player not realising he has an extra half-second is more likely to fumble or stuff up his disposal. A hail Mary kicked from the boundary that scrapes the goalpost is demoralising , reminding the team of an aberrant inside 50, is very different to an accurate one that wows everyone in the replays and changesmomentum. Of course current words guarantee nothing but if individual players and the team dynamic can improve with renewed confidence alone that might see us shoot up the ladder way more than expected.