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He has had hissy fits before. Oliver really could've not posted the pic of him with Casey, just ignored the journo at the escalator and either said nothing now or just say how grateful he was for his time with Melbourne. But he didn't. It's not a crime. But if we shock everyone and make next year's prelims it doesn't look good on him and Tracc.

Umm, big decisions like who are in the 45 players quota are rarely based on just one or two things.

Ok,if i ever see you I'll try to look like Im gonna mug you. 😛

I kid you not.When i typed SUNS into GIFS this came up top Its funny but quite baffling why

I kid you not.When i typed SUNS into GIFS this came up top

So what do we do? So i should pay for books, papers, music, film etc the way i did in the 90s. That would have me paying way more and wondering why Im skint while everyone else goes the cheap route and the people creating the above stuff get an extra cup of coffee out of my generosity. Too bad if I was a travel agent or anyone else who now earns a lot less (or nothing) thanks to modern-day progress. There was something like the Law Of The Commons. If , say, a large community are overfishing their nearby lake and in time all the fish are gone everyone loses out but at the same time no one feels at fault because with thousands of fishermen every individual is less than 1% responsible. I dont know the answer vut this is where we're at.

Of course clubs want higher and better picks. But obviously it's never as easy as calling a team with #1, 12 and 18 in a good draft position and a team with 7, 8, 13 and 14 any lesser blessed. While a team may get a Chris Judd the first pick can problematic as both McCartin and UgleHagan have shown recently. It's nice for a club to have the option of a potential future legend of the game over two future multiple All-Australians. But however we probably did well with the Tracc trade (and if the "small change" isn't ridiculous ( in the 70s or whatever) then, well, we may as well as be arguing whether 0.9999999 is 1 in future similar trades for a gun)

Umm, so if West Coast(?) agree to swap #1 for picks 7 and 8 could we still laugh at PG's comment? I get it: if there's no takers, short of overspending , 7&8 wont become 1 (or vice versa) But the point still stands that getting 2 likely high-class youngsters at once can change everything - we got quite a bit for someone who no longer was part of the team, possibly was causing problems and may be a shadow of his former self (taking a big chunk out of the salary cap).

Yep, lots of spin. So much will always be hidden. The club don't want Tracc, Oliver or any past player to hate us. But it could be if we knew all the stats and stories from recent years we'd agree the club would have been crazy to persist with them.

True. But even in the best team a forward cannot stop a miskick to a defender in space nor do anything with a shot at goal that's out of reach and off target.

Thanks Tarax I was wondering about all this. Jack Viney really was the only one in decades I could think of as a son who's had an impact. Fingers crossed Kalani White will emulate his dad. I don't think we've had much luck with our sons. We seem to have done better with sons of opposition players via Bowey and Spargo. Oh, and Im assuming we've only had sons of two former Brownlow medallists - Woewodin and Paul Couch

Thank you. I was wondering about all this. Jack Viney really was the only one in decades I could think of as a son who's had an impact. Fingers crossed Kalani White will emulate his dad. I don't think we've had much luck with our sons. We seem to have done better with sons of opposition players via Bowey and Spargo. Oh, and Im assuming we've only had sons of two former Brownlow medallists - Woewodin and Paul Couch

Umm, so was Tracc a bit / a lot encouraged to move on?

I'm also sick of hearing "in hindsight we should have" and really these lists of 'lost' players are irrelevant. Plenty of them of will be fondly remembered as 2025 gets smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror and our fortunes finally improve again. But really, apart from watching 2021 replays, it's time to move on and look forward to next year.

Many teams' top ten picks will turn out to be pretty good. Certainly some will be established in the side by year's end. It could be that even by April a newbie has already gone ahead of someone in these lists.

BTW it's going to be hilarious next year if Oliver or Tracc are still butchering the ball or blazing away at goal and the new teams are surprised even though this has all been hidden in plain sight. 😂

Melbourne didn't want him. The 17 other clubs didnt. In recent years he's probably better known for non-footy stuff - comments towards Melksham, Gawn and how we should have beaten Collingwood in 23. I'm sure he knows he's on notice. Maybe he'll pull his head in and sees what he can do with his second chance.