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Anyhow, since when has any footballer NOT looked at the ball and the line, but I'm going to take the shot anyway - you heard of Wayne Harmes? Asked about the lack of replays shown by FIFA, Walton said: "Well that is very peculiar, because at the start of this tournament, for offside decisions it was that those decisions would be shown automatically to the stadium so the people in the stadium could see it, that technology is still available for the people in the stadium. "I’m at a miss as to why they haven’t showed it yet. They’ve got their reasons and only time will tell. I do think the evidence will appear sooner or later whether that ball hasn’t crossed the line." Whilst Walton is confident evidence will eventually be made public, a baffled Souness said: 'We’re getting close to an hour since the incident. The longer they don’t come up with a picture, that last bit would show me that ball is out of play. Initial pictures appeared to show the ball had crossed the line© PA "The longer we don't see that picture which shows conclusively that it's not gone out of play, you’d think there’s something untoward going on. It has to be. "There’s 80 million Germans, right now, going mad that shows that ball didn’t go out of play. I think every TV studio, pundit, people doing your job [presenting] is waiting, why, nearly an hour later are they not showing it?" He added: 'This is not subjective, this is a black and white situation. Show us the pictures." Gary Neville, meanwhile, felt the incident marked a wider problem with communication over decisions at this World Cup. He stated: "From the very first day of this tournament, I don’t think we've been able to communicate big decisions properly to fans at home and even at us, even how decision are being overturned. Footage seen by VAR to overturn the decision was not shown during or immediately after the match© AFP via Getty Images "The goal was disallowed and seen something we haven’t seen in this studio, around the world, we can’t get the angle of what VAR have seen." Souness continued: "Every television studio, every pundit has an interest in this World Cup will be wanting to see the picture where at the end where this happened. In real time, as it happened, the ball went out, the pictures we’ve seen shown the ball went out. "Why aren’t FIFA showing us something which is so controversial that it just cost the Germans dearly. Why are they not showing it to us? This is enormous, 45 minutes later, why aren’t they showing it? Clear it up for us, please."

You can do anything with 'shots'. There are also 'shots' which clearly show a gap between the ball and the line. It is all in the eyes of the beholder: like I say, there were many Pommie commentators - Souness one of them - who called this spade a spade, as regrettable as the hand of god and the infamous 1966 English/German farce. In fact Souness puts them all on the same level.

Interesting that nobody has mentioned the goal from a ball on the other side of the line gifted by VAR to Japan. They are invoking geometry and all kinds of total bunkum to justify what is blatant cheating: even Pommie commentators are jumping up and down.

Or his mum will move to Perth.

Won't argue with that: Ilove the guy, I wish him all the best...

I note the face palm from Lord Nev: don't get me wrong, it's not a put down, I know someone who knows him, he's a great lad, but he didn't manage to hold on to his marking opportunities. That's an unfortunate fact which would be difficult to argue with. I wish him all the best, but I can't see that aspect of his game improving. Then again, and this is something I'm not privy to, Sam was possibly pulling down the same one-grabbers when he was at Jefferson's stage and I'm aware that because of the sheer pressure AFL games applied in AFL football, Jefferson's marking capacity will be tested. Peace, brother.

Unlike some recent Demon Forwards - I emphasize 'some', I am referring to a recent defector who I saw kick a swag against Box Hill, who marked 3 in 20 after that - this lad can hold a mark. A commodity not to be sneezed at.

More to the point in this discussion, is the simple fact that Melbourne's forward entries were a bloody shambles and the ostriches who plan the Forward Line strategy need to learn that only fools keep making the same mistakes with an expectation that some day, something might change. Here's hoping. And as for Jackson delivering Bell's expectations? Let's wait and see, but methinks he's doing something akin to spitting into the wind.

Which means ipso facto, the two Pells are not related.

They 'umpire': none of them would know much about footy: some of dem don't even know da rules!

Ya know the saying, Even dwarfs started small.

Hawkins wasn't getting a kick in those days...

And we've got Gawn, Fritsch, Petracca and Oliver and Pickett

Does Phil's surname start with M, a Carnegie lad?

Ours was keep it away from Number 7 - Osborne - cos he'll kick it to the opposition - much like Dom Tyson...

No tank yu.

So have I . Can you loan me a buck till my next dole cheque comes in????

Made me chuckle. I'm married to an award-winning author...I've been trying to teach her the basics of being a Housewife since I met her. That was a joke, Joyce...

Some of them resonate!

It began thus, Jontee mentioning Patrick White's letters: Roger Mellie Life Member 2.6k Posted yesterday at 08:04 AM (edited) I am too, but you should take a look at the Patrick White Letters - two volumes. He was a mean, miserable [censored] Edited yesterday at 08:58 AM by Roger Mellie Letters not diaries

Though, I can recall kicking 2 goals in a final against West Footscray in 1965, when my direct opponent was Laurie Sandilands. I also remember returning the figures of 6 for 18 off 8 overs, after getting 2 for 11 off the first 2 overs. I won the bowling average that year, after winning the All-rounder award the year before .Ah, the good ole days when I could still run and imagine the Demons would reign forever.

I'm getting to that half-blissful stage where I can't remember what day it is, let alone bringing my wallet to the supermarket to buy dog food, and, just maybe, a bottle or two of Jacobs Creek. As they say, ignorance of what my partner was barking at is bliss.

I never finished Voss. Carver was a short story writer who died in 1988 or so. He, more than anyone, has influenced my writing...He was great at celebrating the ordinary things of life: bottom line domestic stories...

It's like that, I guess. I am a huge Lou Reed and Raymond Carver fan. When I read biographies of them, I wish I hadn't. I have Marr's White biography....

Jontee, I am a very keen Patrick Whiter: please elaborate...