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Well, he is a bogan! You can't teach Ozzie Bogans new tricks!!!!🤣🥰😍 It's like the North Fitzroy shoppers who call Piedemontes PIE demontes...

A beautiful man. So glad he's a Demon.

'The delivery to the forward line' issue still lurks...But I want to look on the bright side...great commentary, guys

Surely because a player is crook in the week leading up to the last training session before Christmas would not rule them out for Round 1 in March? Apart from that, thanks for the report - love it.

Has anyone seen the shocking 3rd Umpire decision against Shakeel in the 2nd Pakistan/England test. I suppose Euclid and geometry and shadows will be invoked again...

Fascinating the Var interpretations. For example, though there is green grass between the ball and the line before the Japanese boot, today's Var interpretation clearly shows that the Frog defender's foot fowled the foot of the Sassenach well into the sacred penalty zone. For once, I agree with the consternation of the Sassenachs. What does it tell you about VAR?????

He used to buy Mahler and Bruckner records from me when I managed the classical section of John Clements, after the Vulgar Bulgar defected to Discurio.

Yes, puppets can be very, very naughty boys: say wicked things !Sacre Bleu...

Agree, except for ANB

I fought it was da telephone!

Thanks. Appreciated.

I get you, FD, however, once again context: the bottom line is that Australia does not have a proud record with regard to its treatment of its Indigenous Communities. The racial abuse Indigenous players have and still suffer is a blight on our society. It's about time we did celebrate their uniqueness, blew to the world their trumpet of what they have achieved culturally, especially with regard to what they can teach us about living 'with' their land', not exploiting it like we do and have, and, with regard to Footy, what magnificence they bring to the field.

Great info: I didn't know that. Thanks_ I always admired Caldwell.

Go Brazil!

Yep, Macca, I understand all that. Souness and another Brit commentator did, howeve,r point out that to the naked eye the ball was out and called so. He then asked the simple question of why it took the VAR dudes so long to 'manufacture' their Euclid derived 'explanations'. As I have intimated, much of life is in the eyes of the beholder...

I come from the same place, way out west, near your hangout. Believe me, it wasn't fun being a migrant in 1956... And I vividly recall my dad being shocked at the carload exodus to the Derrimut on pay day when the 'Shouts' were long and aplenty. My dad went once and after his first beer he was ready to go back to work...

Yep: once again, context is everything. And, yes, he was a magnificent advocate for post war immigration, however, the context is called The White Australia Policy, which existed until very recently in our history.

I think it's all about contexts and of course it's true that there is no need to stereotype Aussies as beer gluggers and no more, but, for example, in my father's context, the question asked of him was a stereotypical Aussie attitude in the area I was brought up in, and if I counted the number of times I was called a reffo and told to go home, if you see what I mean....And, I assure you, to be a 'wog' in the 50's and 60's was no fun, nor was it fun to be among the first boatload of Vietnamese, and it wasn't all that long ago that Mister Dutton was telling Australians that it was unsafe to walk the streets of Melbourne because of African gangs, nor was it all that long ago that Calwell said, 'Two Wongs don't make a white'. That's the context...

No. Please enlighten me...I mean that in a friendly way.

Well said, Durango. Racial prejudice is unfortunately just one aspect of human nature. No amount of common sense or education will ever change people who are prejudiced, mainly because it has been drummed into them since they became conscious. Stupid people like John from Epping should be ignored and, in the end, neither Lyon or Watson will ever change the warped minds of the Johns. I've also learnt that arguing with prejudiced people is futile, as is attempting to get them to see the light. Remember, that until Copernicus came along, the Western world believed the earth is flat. Some of them still do. ( I also suffered racial prejudice at school, and I remember my father answering a question from one of his Aussie Co-workers thus: How come you new Australians can afford a house when you've only been in this country two years? My father answered, Because I know the difference between a bank and a pub. Our first home was built by a Jewish builder in 1958: he and my dad made a great team.)

Look at the photo: it did. You and others have been blinded by 'science', Geometry indeed! There is grass between the ball and the line: where on earth can a ball's shadow or such be deemed part of the 'whole ball'.

The photo I posted shows the ball clearly over the line. Whenever the connection was made is irrelevant: the ball is OVER THE LINE.

Also, Hardtack, I'm not implying the Japanese cheated: Var certainly did and the fact that the replays were put into Amnesia territory only adds more smoke to the fire.

And what they showed us was hocus pocus bulldust about Geometry. That was many hours later, presumably after Doctor Shot and Euclid had been consulted. I can clearly see with me own 4 eyes dat there is grass between the ball and the line: Ah, I know, that was the doctored shot. I guess the saying you can fool most of the people most of the time is probably true. Most salient, is the point Souness and Neville make, that the protocol of screening the replay straight away was conveniently put into the amnesia corner.