demoncat

Starting early Bucks?

I will keep it together then… for now

ANNOUNCE THE COACHING COMMITTEE ALREADY I CANT KEEP REFRESHING THIS THREAD EVERY 10 MINUTES

Goodwin has been very classy in his recent interviews and he deserves kudos for that And I’m not convinced the board has resolved all of the issues which have been well documented over the last few years But people here are quick to forget the position we found ourselves in as recently as two weeks ago A team with a bottom four form line over the last two years, coming off a history making fourth qtr collapse, with a coach seeming to have no answers on how to address our fall and no want to make positional and list changes And that’s before we get into the two straight sets finals exits and well documented cultural issues that were allowed to fester As much as I respect Goody and appreciate what he achieved for us, we were on a hiding to nothing in 2026 both from an onfield and membership perspective, and something had to give

Has anyone told Buckley?

Windhager would be a great get - he’s been really solid for the Saints this year and at 22 still has the scope to improve My only concern is where does he fit if Viney, Trac and Clarry are all on the list in 2026? Windhager is good but he’s not exactly the silky midfielder we’re crying out for, so do we risk adding another inside type when we’re already overstocked in that area?

Appreciate the info Disappointing that just as it seems we started getting organised off field a new board room stoush appears Hopefully it’s much ado about nothing but the MFCSS in me is always worried about the new and innovative ways we manage to mess things up

Does anything you’ve heard make you concerned about attracting Buckley/any other potential coach? In the other clip from that segment she spoke about Smith potentially assuming the President role in December, with the implication being this instability may scare off a potential coach in waiting Not worried about them talking to Buckley early though - I’d be disappointed if they didn’t!

Echoes what Jon Ralph reported in one of his recent articles about us Poor man management if that’s the case - if he didn’t think he was good enough, why make the promise? Only speculation but I wonder if there was a similar situation with Rivers? Although I will admit he had his best game of the year at half back this weekend

While I do think Caro is being unnecessarily vindictive in her reporting, I do hope that the plan to transition from Green to Smith is still proceeding without issue The last thing the club needs is to give the impression of board instability to a prospective coach like Buckley, who will be acutely aware of the effect that poor governance can have on a senior coach Keep it together Dees and go get our man

Nah Bucks should go to the club that doesn’t even exist yet 🤣

I don’t have any inside information, but I believe it was reported as such

The board made a unanimous decision to sack Goodwin And guess what, Smith is a board member Even if it was driven by Green he alone couldn’t have made the change

I mean I guess that’s true but if he didn’t rate us he’d have Tassie and potentially Carlton as options in the next 12 months Would be very easy to say he’s not interested and hold fire until then

Reckon Bucks wouldn’t be interested if we had a bad list Especially when yesterday was one of the first games where our promising young talent really led the way with less impact from our senior players (sans Gawn and McDonald) Think we just need to continue to rebalance our list towards our younger core and see if we can top up with some players in that 24-26 range, while also bringing in a new coach to further transition the gameplan, improve selection integrity and potentially make some tough calls on a few senior players

An honourable loss if there ever was one Showed our next coach the potential of our list, particularly our young players, and our ability to play fast paced, damaging transition footy Unfortunately also showed them the limitations of our senior players, some of whom might have some tough conversations coming their way at seasons end Oh and we might need to bring in an assistant coach focused specifically on close game scenarios, because once again our leadership and planning at that last CBA was woeful Still, very entertaining and shows us we have life yet!

Might have to bring in Pendlebury as an assistant coach after he retires for that to happen 🤣 He was a Dees supporter as a kid 👀

Blind Freddy could tell a a few weeks into the season that Goodwin’s time as coach was coming to an end sooner rather than later I’d be disappointed if the club didn’t start sounding out options as a contingency plan because, guess what, things didn’t get that much better after the 0-5 start The club preparing for the potential of a new coach didn’t cook our season, our (now previous) coach did that

I will never understand why Rivers wasn’t put into the midfield this year His second half of 2024 as a full time midfielder was excellent and one of the few positives in an otherwise disappointing year He then spends all preseason training as a midfielder as Goody begins to flag that we’re transitioning as team, both from a gameplan and personnel perspective But then what happened? He didn’t play a single minute in there for the whole year, despite Viney, Trac and Oliver playing game after game in there, with their weaknesses being a significant factor behind us falling to 7 wins 13 losses And I don’t want to hear about AMW’s injury meaning we needed another defender back there - by the time McVee came back into the team we had plenty of defensive cover to move Rivers out of defence In the end it was emblematic of why Goody had to be moved on, and it will be very telling if he starts getting CBAs in the last three games

I don’t know if the club would have enough pull to do that on its own merits unfortunately Rightly or wrongly there is a certain perception of the club at the moment and I’m concerned that if we bring in an inexperienced coach we may not attract further talent in the FD, and may be setting them up to fail Someone like Buckley would attract talent on his own merits, and it would be a big vote of confidence in the club if someone with his reputation wanted to coach here Again he may or may not be the ‘best coach’ of everyone available, but he would bring a lot of other benefits that would be exclusive to him

Appreciate the info @Howard_Grimes Your last point about bringing in quality assistant coaches is an underrated point in the discussion Maybe there is an untried coach out there who has better tactical acumen then an experienced coach like Bucks, but one thing someone like Bucks will be able to do is bring in these types of coaches as assistants while also bringing his own leadership as senior coach Not having quality assistants has been a significant issue for us since Yze departed - bringing in someone well respected in the industry and with strong football connections could be a “two birds with one stone” scenario

Jeez Caro just took a big whack at the club didn’t she? Never mind that Bucks has already said that that coaching the club would be “compelling” because of our list, history etc Tasmania will be a great gig for a coach who doesn’t mind developing a team over the course of many years, but if Bucks wants a chance of winning a flag in the medium term the choice between the two is clear

I’m not necessarily advocating for Bucks but to be fair McCrae had Nick Daicos from his first year onwards Don’t underestimate how much of an impact that has had on his tenure so far

Injuries haven’t helped him but the last time he genuinely contributed to team success was in 2021 Thanks for your help with the flag Spargo but it’s a see ya from me