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Milne's in my Saints top 10.

That's great - our rucks are set for a flag and we don't need Fitzpatrick or Gawn to learn anything about rucking in the VFL 1s. What a relief!

Yeah but they won't be learning how to ruck if they're doing that ...

I understand the Campbell selection, there's 2 sides to it: 1. Why it will be good: If Jamar and Spencer get injured we're without a primary tap ruckman, our structure will suffer and development of the entire team will be lost. 2. How it mightn't be so good: If we don't get injuries to ruckmen we've got to find games for Spencer, Fitzpatrick, Gawn, Martin and Campbell - some of them will have to play Casey 2s which is not ideal. Does Casey have any ruckmen on their list? From an MFC point of view I hope not, but I can see why Casey wouldn't agree, particularly considering how few MFC players have been available to them in the last 2 finals campaigns.

My availability is unreliable at present - away with work. Carry on, seems to be going well and getting more interesting.

I'm logging off for a while - I've got instructions from Roger and E25 if required ...

Clash jumper looks good. Wouldn't mind seeing the "MFC" (that's on the socks) in navy on the white at the front. Not sure it would be better though - might be too "busy" I'll buy a jumper this year - last time I had one it had #9 on it (Brian Dixon).

The Draft so far: - Round 1 1. High Tower - Frawley (Melb) 2. Deez Nutz - Ablett (GC) 3. Roger Mellie - Selwood (Geel) 4. Trengove - Sandilands (Freo) 5. Deestroy All - Judd (Carl) 6. Range Rover Realism - Goddard (St Kilda) 7. The Master - Franklin (Haw) 8. Eth38 - Hodge (Haw) 9. Ox 5 Demons - N. Riewoldt (St Kilda) 10. E25 - Goodes (Syd) Round 2 11. E25 - Kreuzer (Carl) 12. Ox 5 Demons - J Riewoldt (Rich) 13. Eth38 - Hayes (St Kilda) 14. The Master - M. Jamar (Melb) 15. Range Rover Realism - Brian Lake (W Bulldogs) 16. Deestroy All - D Hille (Ess) 17. Trengove - J Brown (Lions) 18. Roger Mellie - M Le Cras (WCE) 19. Deez Nutz - D.Swan (Coll) 20. High Tower - J.Watson (Ess) Round 3 21. High Tower - M.Pavlich (Frem) 22. Deez Nutz - P.Chapman (Geel) 23. Roger Mellie - S.Fisher (St.K) 24. Trengove - K.Tippett (Adel) 25. Deestroy All - M.Scarlett (Geel) 26. Range Rover Realism - D.Jolly (Coll) 27. The Master - S.Hurn (WCE) 28. Eth38 - S.Mumford (Syd) 29. Ox 5 Demons - H.Taylor (Geel) 30. E25 - J.Kennedy (WCE) Round 4 31. E25 - S.Pendlebury (Coll) 32. Ox 5 Demons - S.Black (Bris) 33. Eth38 - T.Cloke (Coll) 34. The Master - D.Thomas (Coll) 35. Range Rover Realism - B.Fevola (Bris) 36. Deestroy All - B.Hall (W Dogs) 37. Trengove - D.Glass (WCE) 38. Roger Mellie - D.Mundy (Frem) 39. Deez Nutz - J.Waite (Carlton) 40. High Tower - A.Cooney (W Dogs) Round 5 41. High Tower - N.Bock (G Coast) 42. Deez Nutz - M.Hurley (Ess) 43. Roger Mellie - J.Roughead (Haw) 44. Trengove - K.Moore (Rich) 45. Deestroy All - B.Deledio (Rich) 46. Range Rover Realism - J.Bartel (Geel) 47. The Master - S.Hill (Frem) 48. Eth38 - T.Pears (Ess) 49. Ox_5 Demons - C.Enright (Geel) 50. E25 - C.Rioli (Haw) Round 6 51. E25 - D.Martin (Rich) 52. Ox_5 Demons - L.Jurrah (Mel) 53. Eth38 - J.Harbrow (GC) 54. The Master - D.Swallow (GC) 55. Range Rover Realism 56. Deestroy All 57. Trengove 58. Roger Mellie 59. Deez Nutz 60. High Tower Round 7 61. High Tower 62. Deez Nutz 63. Roger Mellie 64. Trengove 65. Deestroy All 66. Range Rover Realism 67. The Master 68. Eth38 69. Ox_5 Demons 70. E25 Round 8 71. E25 72. Ox_5 Demons 73. Eth38 74. The Master 75. Range Rover Realism 76. Deestroy All 77. Trengove 78. Roger Mellie 79. Deez Nutz 80. High Tower

Fair enough - let's go with you can make your wild card pick at any time Gives more flexibility.

PM me a pick for each day you wont be around and one extra in case your selection gets taken - that will cover the 24 hour rule. I'm gonna be interstate on business from Sunday night and will have less access next week myself.

Just to be clear, we agreed earlier that you can move your selections round in the 18 and you don't have to keep them in the initial position nominated.

PM me a list of selections in order and I'll make them for you.

Yeah I'd assumed too but then I thought some might be thinking it's [a] and that would cause angst later. The more I thought about the more I liked [a] anyway, but I can see the appeal of too, being able to play your "wild-card" at any time. Let me know ...

I'm a bit surprised they didn't fill say 25, 26 and 30 - the next 3 available with Howe, Davis and McDonald. Will 6 rookies fill the earlier vacant numbers? There doesn't seem to be a policy beyond awarding early picks significant numbers.

Important rule clarification I was thinking about overnight ... It's 17 + 1 but when can you activate the 1? [a] Must make selections from all 17 teams and in R18 can select from a team already selected or Can make the 2nd selection any time. I don't think anyone has selected 2 from a team yet - please let me know if you have because then it's . I favour [a] but it's a democracy (at least on this one) and I'll go with the majority.

DA up

On behalf of RRR: Round 4 Pick 35 - Brendan Fevola - Brisbane Lions B: Lake HB: Goddard C: HF: F: Fevola R: Jolly

10:15 Fri 3/12 is The Master's deadline RRR's next pick is in the can with me.

Maybe not - I think R16-18 could get very interesting

From Roger 2 questions for the adjudicator: 1) Are we putting a team together for just 2011 or the next 3 years. Ie. do we rule out the senior citizens of the comp? In the original I said 3 years but let's just go for 2011 so senior players like Simon Black are in play. 2) Can you move your players around in your team or are they fixed into the line (HB, HF etc) you select them in. Eg If you selected Goodes, could you put him at CHF then FF depending on who you drafted later in proceedings. Yeah you can move them around as you go

Maybe PM me as administrator ...

In the real draft there's 1000s of registered players and it is possible to "hide" someone. So yeah loose lipe could sink ships. In this draft there's around 700 players with exposed and documented form. You're looking at the top 10 players at each club plus a couple - I don't think the peanut gallery is really gonna come up with a "smokey". I think strategy is more important than specifically who you pick.

Free speech

I reckon you'll still get a good one - I counted up 12 ruckmen I'd be happy to go to war with. The "plus one" realy give a safety margin here because if you've already selected a player from the sides with remaining decent ruckmen you've still got an out. This game will be tighter next year with 18 teams.

Interesting strategy re ruckmen. At least 6 picked already before the end of the 3rd round. I reckon there's >10 decent ruckmen and really it's daylight after Sandilands. I reckon you're guaranteed to get a decent ruckman.