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I think people are retroactively asking alot of Yze. Yze and Green are wingers, forward pockets, and half-back flankers. They get soft footy, no doubt. But for a decade Adem Yze was a fine winger with an equisite kick. He truly was a quarterback of a kind. (Stand by for a Gridiron analogy, most should be able to follow) And the quarterbacks are the softest players in the NFL, but they are celebrated for their poise and decision making. Aswell as the execution of their skill. I think some are asking a quarterback to be judged as a running back. (Running Backs being the bloke who runs straight forward into a line of huge men becasue the quarterback palmed it to him) Bringing it back to AFL. Yze and Green over their careers have not averaged 2 tackles a game, but their value isn't in the guts. It's on the periphery. McDonald should and will be celebrated more than these two because he gets his own footy and contested ball. But don't miss the value in Yze and Green as excellent periphery players. (Although Green has that kicking thing that I mentioned earlier)

As tough as I am being on Green, most are even tougher on Yze. You must see the hyperbole in your assessments of Yze. Come on, fellas. He's better than that.

Green will kick it indiscriminately to avoid contact. Does it all the time, I can't believe no-one else notices it. If Green has a role in the midfield then Yze has a role in the forward line. Personally I'd like to see Green take on Yze's role in the FP. Make Green earn his kicks rather than get cheap ones off the half back line.

All teams have frontrunners, even good ones. He is a forward pocket now, not a midfielder. Sure he's soft, but terribly good in the forward line as he has shown before. Green also slams the ball indiscriminately onto his foot as soon as he hears 'footsteps,' and yet there are many who think he is worthy of captaining the side. Greens' faults are more damaging to the side, because he still thinks he can play in the guts. Therefore, his mistakes are magnified. Don't want to turn this into a diatribe against Green, I just want to point out that at FP there is still a role of someone as soft as Yze, who can find the footy.

We quickly get a selective memory whenever someone turns 30. In the last ten seasons, Yze has averaged 20 disposals a game. He has never been highly rated by the 'football world.' Sheahan doesn't rate him at all. Got 38 touches against Freo only this year. If he's in the best 22 play him; our team is young enough as it is. No need to cut good careers short.

Same as Judd - 2001, and 3 picks later. Huge talent, i'm not sure its a massive risk if we pick him up. For nothing. At not much.

Here we go again...

There isn't a scandal here, it's a HR issue. Harris is a fine person but he needs to provide some stability; change of behaviour? restructure? I don't know. I just know that we are wasting $ on recruitment (because of turnover) around 3 to 1 compared to other clubs. That is why the AFL is worried.

In 2006, Nathan Carroll was the 2nd best Full Back to Rutten. You can argue the opposite all you like, plenty agree with me on this. If people want to find a scapegoat next season (a la ND for 2007) Carroll should not be the one. He is capable of FB if the rest of the team does its job too.

I hate slinging mud. It's not fun at all but Harris is notoriously hard to work for and with. Was editior of the Age and has many a splintered relationship. The AFL has alerted the board to their displeasure of our turnover. As I said, 90% in the past year. It means we keep on losing money we desperately need on recruitment for vacancies. Former employees, ever diplomatic, don't refer to Harris as a reason for leaving. But when a bloke with such poor people management skills is in charge at a time of disturbing turnover, it's obvious where the problem lies.

You're not making sense, but hey it's all looking a bit moot anyway...

Nah, he did a job and we paid him. Owing nothing. And contracts mean jack sh!t these days too. 3 month waiver? Can't even get that on FIFA Manager 2007. Maybe 2008 then.

Hyperbole abounds with the most popular (McLean & Jones) and the least popular (Miller & Carroll). The fact is that Carroll almost got AA honours in 2006, and you may say that such an accolade would be received only because of the performance of the team and the midfield itself in 2006. Yes, that is true but we sing the praises of Egan and the rest of Geelongs' honest backline - save Scarlett - when their dominance as a team meant that AA honours for their backline were assured. Carroll will hold up FB for a year or two until a more skillful and athletic recruit takes his place. In other words, Carroll is not the weak link that will affect where we finish in 2008.

This was a long time coming. Clubs have been looking to get CAC for years and he has been here for over a decade. Although, this is more turnover (90% in the last 12 months) for the club, and more cash that has to be spent on finding a replacement... Steve Harris - He really engenders people to work for him.

Unless this thread is congratulating the 2004 or 2005 draft, we got some problems... Morton, Grimes, and Maric are just names and potential at the moment. I'm guessing the effusive praise is coming from the outside opinions of our picks. You cannot determine the performance of CAC based on the opinion of the greater football community (Connors, WB recruiting bloke, Andrew Maher etc). BTW I will always defend CAC but seriously...

The Melbourne market is tapped, if a supporter (MCC) isn't paid up for MFC membership no ad or 'brand inforcement technique' is going to help. The club IS thinking laterally - looking at new Victorians and the large amount of Chinese coming for study, work etc. I can understand your frustrated passion but let's be honest; there is no return on investment for most initiatives.

I don't want my club to waste its small amount of disposable cash on billboards or ads that would do nothing to help the club get financial backing or members. Behind the scenes gathering of sponsors and investments are the way to go, but supporters don't see that and if they can't see something then its not happening. You want to do something worthwhile for the club - help out The Red and Blue Foundation that's trying to raise a couple mil so we can get into our new digs at Olympic Park.

CAC had Morton in the top 3 and Grimes as no.4. So we would have taken Grimes at 4 if Morton had been taken by Rich or WCE. You take the best available. Their all prospects at this age but the true leaders are the ones that you shouldn't let slip. From all reports Grimes is that. Besides, our midfield is strong but still has some issues (Outside of Jones & McLean): Bate (slow), Sylvia (he's a midfielder?), Dunn, Petterd, Buckley (unproven), Batram (honest toiler), Bruce, Green, Wheatley (lost form), McDonald (tick tock), Moloney (injury setbacks) Jeez, looking at that Grimes may be in the 22 come Rd 1.

An inch!! He can't play a position because he is an inch too short! WTF! There's a Simpson quote to reel off, you know, when Bart went for the role of Fallout Boy. Good times.

Morton could go straight onto a wing, although look to CHF in the long term maybe. Grimes might be a show off the bench in the midfield. Maric would be hard pressed to get into the forward line at this stage. Cheney and McNamara would be looking at 2009 and beyond. To sum up, don't expect these boys to deliver something they can't. At least not yet... BTW - can people stop saying we didn't pick in KPPs in the draft. Morton is 192cm FFS!

Morton is 192cm, he's as tall as Neita. People keep on saying - you gotta be 195+ to play FF, CHF, CHB, FB. Honestly, you let people take an inch...

Awful last name, I'll be refering to him as KC for the rest of his career. Just can't stand D!ck. Let's get busy, KC. Sounds good.

Most important player from 2004 and for another 5 or so years is and will be Jared Rivers.

What are you still doing here? Seriously, trolling has got to be hard on the self-esteem. Can't do it myself, I'd hate myself too much.

This is not what the AFL wants, they want a franchise on the GC not an occasional side. Collingwood needs to let things be for once, the region needs its own team to embrace. Whether its the Kangaroos or a 17th team, they have to train there, live there, and draft the locals from there. Eddie is just making trouble because he doesn't want the Kangaroos to have any draft concessions or 'out of contract negotiation concessions.' In his words: 'we've been down this road before' - Eddie is still bitter over those salary cap allowances that the team that beat his team in two grand finals enjoyed. Poor Eddie, you know he's the real victim in all this...