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Yes, this fascination to make our AA ruckman a forward is lost on me, I can understand him training his replacement but Grundy is only a year younger. We should either target a young developing ruckman who can also get better as a target or a forward who can ruck. I don’t understand investing in another established ruckman in their last 4 years of AFL footy.

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You’d hope so, and also don’t we have to release the players after like the Wednesday after your last game or something? Thought I read that somewhere

It’s a gameplan put together by the coaching staff obviously with Goodwin as the final say so. And I am sure they will try to adopt something closer to Sydney and be a bit more enterprising and expansive. Im talking about a ball movement coach specifically charged with implementing it. Went to a coaching conference about 10 years ago and had a presentation from the Bombers ball movement coach and he described his role as the person responsible to be able to talk to any player and talk them through how their role would complement. Also would be good to get some fresh ideas.

Well said, Bing. When Rd 1 came around it was amazing how sluggish both teams seemed to me, and how proppy some were after a concentrated pre -season where bodies perhaps didn’t recover. Then Salem came in, had one short kick and hobbled off ONLY TO COME BACK ON and then the annus horribilis began and some of the decisions on players ‘backing up’ seemed to make it worse, so I do think they need to review that management and whether they really did need to smash some of our best players through periods of the season.

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This will turn into a season review pod because the game was the epitome of our second half of the season against good teams; started well, got scores from repeat entries, opposition adjusts and recovers, we get pulverised in the second half, and can’t move the ball from D50 if our season depended on it. Or is this the season review pod? In which case, it would good to collect the aspects that contributed most to our (hopefully singular) year of malaise. Injuries, forward pressure, transition issues, outside run, etc Then the 3 or 5 biggest changes that need to be made or explored.

TU is talking about the tying to performance, which your second sentence seems to agree with… This thread hey?

Yeah, I wouldn’t put him in your 22 just yet…

Were some players complacent with their preparation? Did they do the extra sessions they did the year before? Were we too comfortable with performances of certain players? I think this kind of thing eats away at any ‘culture’ that has been to the summit. I don’t think it’s the reason but I think a certain level of comfort and complacency being a factor is hard to argue with really. Shame is a great driver though looking for a response.

I think we showed some hubris, yes. Don’t know about some of these examples but we talked too often about how we are are the exemplar and we’re not. Primarily Roffey and Gawn.

Yeah, they’re already here.

Agreed, with the addendum ball movement needs to change too. Know what you’re trying to say about Brown, TMac, Fritsch, et al. Bayley is so quick on a lead but doesn’t spend those tickets to stop defensive transition - he plays like he is our FF and that he doesn’t need to do that and when he does that; he looks lazy and we look so slow. I am hopeful with; an actual FF (either Brown back where he competed for Colemans or McKay-like trade) who plays out of square, TMac back at CHF, JVR as a taller HFF who competes on the ground, Fritsch can be removed from the ‘the tall brigade’ that doesn’t chase and harass, that we can ameliorate a lot of what we saw in 2022.

Yeah, all my patience is for the head coach who always cops win, lose or draw. And I am salty as we all are. I’m going to give myself a pass for it though. We are out in straight sets and people on here were annoyingly overconfident. I will even out when my eyes stop bleeding.

Going back to back is hard because our training had to be moved a few times across town? And our unreliable fan base means what and is relevant how to going back to back? Honestly, sometimes you write some pretty cogent things and then you just throw out so of the oddest stuff into the ether. It’s like your posts were written by committee and you get this disjointed output. Like a Chris Pratt film.

I love the smell of facepalm in the morning…

Simply must keep him. There are always ‘replacement’ players that are inflated after a flag win, their future is deigned as they are so close to stars they are artificially illuminated - Sparrow, Spargo, JJ - they have ceilings much lower than what their market speculated. They can go. Pickett, LJ, Petty - these are our only bonafide star players under 22. We can’t lose two of them.

I don’t think we set the world on fire in the first two and a half months either in second halves. We played some bad teams and mostly only played a good quarter. Some of them we won on reputation before the game started.

We just weren’t aggressive enough and we sat back after getting those leads and lent on our flooding Demon Web and our back 6. Think about how many times in win steak it would be one qtr of dominance and 3 qtrs of meh.

This is Chaplin’s defensive scheme: the Demon Web. Goodwin is a players coach. Now they can change tactics and go with the wind there BUT they stick to players for years past their ‘use by’ date because the economy isn’t built around performance, it’s built around commitment and that can also be a problem that needs to managed and reigned in.

We have always got back into the 1st round so this isn’t a ‘selling our future’ problem. Also, we are in ‘win this decade’ mode so yeah it’s fine.

Well, one of the benefits for all this pain is do think it builds empathy as you imply and educate posters who don’t really follow footy closely, only the Demons. When we were [censored] all we needed was a coach and a list to compete but the nuances build up when you are a flag chance every year; form, injuries, playing style, et al. They all play a part and they can all bring you back down to earth…