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Agreed. This next year is a superdraft stuff gives me the runs. On top of what you've already said..the player drafted this year has already been in the system for a year and is further developed. A club in our position wants players ready to go sooner rather than later..

I took the article as saying what you've said, but we hand over our Watts compo as well...so: Out: Pick 10, next years 1st round pick and Watts compo pick. In: Lever, pick 18 (if Cameron deal gets done)

Can one of the mods kindly ban me from looking at this thread any further..

Smash west end cans and smoke bongs.

The irony is that if he does leave, he most likely will start to train harder and do those "extras" and finally become the player we always hoped he would be...

Proposing at 21 years of age? He can't be too smart then..

Clayton booked in for media training at 8am tomorrow I'm led to believe. Not sure why..

I too can see Melbourne fans wearing Jack's board shorts to games as a form of protest for years to come...

Is "he" from Thailand? If so...that's not the Best and Fairest mate.

Bit early to be on the gas isn't it mate?

PJs in it up to his eyeballs trust me...and not in the way of "mediation".

Thank Hibberd before anyone for that goal. Still an amazing goal from Jack....happiest i've been all season after he kicked that.

The players shouldn't have even needed motivating in that last game against Collingwood! Sure the coaching staff have to take some responsibility but ultimately, as far as i'm concerned it was the players that let the club down that day....the effort in the first quarter was inexcusable! But then again, maybe the coaches should have cranked "Eye of the Tiger" a little louder in the rooms before the game.

I get the feeling the players love Jack as a person and love having him around, because he is without a doubt a terrific guy. But from an outsiders point of view, I also get the feeling they don't necessarily love Jack "the footballer".....not all the time anyway.

Agreed, rubbish article. Concur with every point.

Yes...lets. I appreciate the response and can certainly see where you are coming from. BUT who's to say they haven't already had these meetings/conversations with him and he isn't holding up his end of the bargain? If that's the case (and i'm not saying it is) perhaps, they've finally had enough of the lip service.

All we have heard through the MFC spokespeople in the media is that they demand better preparation and higher output from Jack compared to what he's produced so far.. All i'm saying Jumbo is that there are clearly bigger issues and much finer details relating to these comments that none of us know about... As far as i'm concerned, i'd love Jack to stay if he's going to give 100% and be the best player he can be...but if the club believe it's more beneficial to our club long term to not have him there, then i'm all for the trade!

Dangerfield was put on the spot and responding to a question about Jack. He's not exactly going to say he's rubbish is he? Never have I heard a player interviewed, when asked about another player potentially coming to their club, that hasn't wrapped the bloke up. Dangerfield would have next to no idea what's gone on behind closed doors in relation to Jack's attitude or application, relating to goals set for him by the club....none of us really do!

Levers Manager Guy has just been announced as Collingwoods new list manager.

Adelaide are in damage control after the train wreck that was their Grand Final performance. They are just showing their supporters they are still "in control" of all of this..

Geelong gave up picks 9 and 28 for Dangerfield. Coughing up 10 and 27 would be a slap in the face for our clubs negotiation skills. Lever may be a decent player...but he is nowhere near a Patrick Dangerfield!

So that would be picks 10, 27 and Watts for Lever...Jaysus!! If that was the case, let him go to Collingwood!

Hibberd's inner Franga bogan really on display tonight..