Ollie fan

Well, CF, that is just the miserly, ungenerous response I would expect. "The allegations were false and had no basis in fact". What rises could possibly be said?

Does Allen Jakovich have any father/son prospects?

I didn't say he was as good as Dermie. I said he REMINDS me of Dermie. But I believe that this coming year will be when he puts it all together, and that is when we will find out just how good he is which I think is: very very good.

I think he's great. He actually reminds me of Dermie - and whatever else Dermie is, he was a tremendous player. And I like him going into the ruck. It gets/keeps him involved, he holds his own doing it, and my feeling is that he enjoys it too. He is a player that seems to love the physical contest.

So now Geelong have Martin, Stengle, Close and Miers. It looks like a new, post-Hawkins game plan to me.

A classic summary of modern coaching philosophy - as you say, yell at them more. That'll do the trick.

I suggested about two years ago that she should be on our men's coaching staff - and I still have that view

Well, this is a really c..p post. KDF made a fair point and made it fairly. Pert has obviously had good points and bad points. There is no doubt that there has been a lot of criticism of him on this site - usually vituperative and largely unjustified - and KDF was making the fair point that it won't be easy to replace him. No doubt the posters who were banging on about the need for the reviews to be independent etc will completely fail to recognise that the review, as conducted and as authorised by the existing board, has clearly been perfectly independent and prepared to make hard suggestions/decisions - in other words, that the board as presently constituted has done a good job with the reviews.

So why should we listen to you? The definition of a fair-weather supporter!

Sure. Were Brisbane missing Neale or Andrews? Were Sydney missing Heeney or Warner? Were GWS missing Greene or Hogan? Were Port missing Butters or Rozee? We were missing Trac, Clarry was playing through a ridiculous amount of injuries but because he's Clarry he still deserved his spot, as well as it being very good for his mental health (and as a concerned club with a concerned coach and a difficult situation, that was excellent work by the club); Gawn had a stress fracture but still deserved his spot.

Injuries: in 2023, at the end of the season, our forward line was completely destroyed by injury. In 2024, we had our three best players, all multiple AA players, either out or totally affected because of injury. Injuries kill teams. If you can't see that, you're not looking.

I am completely with Little Goffy on this. So tired of the ridiculous criticising c..p that is dominating this site. Goodie hagiographers: well, he has a flag, multiple top four finishes and a record to match basically anyone's. The real criticism is that he hasn't made enough of it outstanding list - which completely ignores the fact that a few other clubs have had pretty outstanding lists too, and that he has had some pretty terrible luck with critical injuries at critical times. But some people just love to bag anyone and everything - the coach, the board, certain players (think of how much ANB and TMac have copped, among many others!) -yep, if there is a chance to criticise, along come CF, HTD, the almost aptly-named Kent....

I said: in the first half of the season. For you to get off his back. And if have to say, if I were him and I won the flag, you would be the last person I'd want to have a drink with after all the "support" you have shown him.

That's great, PF. Now perhaps you'll tell us what he needs to achieve in the first half of the season for you to back off!

In all seriousness, it would be nice to see Hibbo back.

And a very good one

I read your initial comment and quoted it correctly. Later you changed to say that it was only dad that was disgruntled- no doubt because you had been successfully called out on the misinformation re his mum.

That's not what you said earlier in this thread - you said the Oliver family/camp (not just dad) were incredibly disgruntled. Big change!

And I have heard exactly the same thing. I said earlier in a post: don't believe a fraction of what you read, including the whole premise of this thread.

You know, it beggars belief as you say. I'll tell you what: don't believe one tenth of what you read in the media including on here, starting with the whole premise of this thread.

Collingwood can have him. I never wanted another HBF - that is one position we have covered. As for Trac: he may have had issues with the club. So? They may be justified, they may not. He might be a top bloke, he might not. I will never see him in the same light again: he apparently was prepared to go to Collingwood - to stand in the circle and sing their song with his arms over the shoulders of Brayden Maynard. I am NOT impressed with that. Any team mate of Gus's who would contemplate that loses me. And as for culture: it is noticeable that BBB stayed at Melbourne and still does. He has the score on the board as a person who speaks up when things are wrong.

Sorry, I thought it was true, but if you say it is rubbish I will accept your reasoned and evidence-supported response.

It's the"fans" bit that bothers me. There are a number of posters who do nothing but criticise. That's hardly being a fan. BTW, a poster on this site recently revealed that during the period where Petracca was in the news and Kate Roffey was silent, she was actually in hospital with COVID. So perhaps we can all back off that particular bit of criticism.

Yes, and particularly you, so you can't use the slightest bit of criticism in the findings as a platform for your ceaseless Lawrence campaign.

Let's just suppose that is correct. Then why are you dragging up an incident from mid-2022, purely between two players, one of whom doesn't go very well with alcohol. What has that got to do with the culture of the club? Why are you repeating rumours about Goody which are totally unsupported, which he flatly denies, and which are highly defamatory? Why are you saying that Clarry wanted to leave when he has made it completely clear that the only thing that got him even thinking of leaving were the (unsubstantiated) reports that the club was open to trading him? No, you've lost me.