Ollie fan

Dempsey gets a goal after a mark outside the boundary. Geelong 22 frees, WB 10....

I hate Geelong

Ross Lyon did a press conference recently where he got a bit snippy with a reporter, because he knew that the reporter's knowledge of the game was miles behind his own. My point is, someone like Lyon would be fantastic at explaining some of the final points of the game. Obviously, he has other things on his mind at the moment but there should be plenty of people like him out there.

Bowey - so unbelievably clean

Well, that was a good pick!!!

You see some real sad sacks on this thread, don't you?! What I am seeing is a top-class game where we are playing exceptionally well but last years premiers (probably this year too) are playing better. Those of you who say we don't change our game: look at this game. The problems: at times our kicking is terrible, and sorry, Choco, but that has to be down to you. And Windsor STILL isn't a defender, and you can see why Brisbane let Sharp go - he tries, but doesn't succeed. But Clarry is back in form, Max is playing better than he ever has, Bowey is fantastic, and many other huge positives.

I don't expect anyone in this thread will read and refer to the article in today's Age about how Kossie is treated (exceptionally sensitively and well) by the club AND BY GOODY.

Just read that article. It really casts doubt on the theory that he is going to WA next year, and it is a ringing endorsement of the club and of Goody and how they are working with Kossie. Of course, the Goodwin haters will ignore it.

In the article, it quotes Pert as saying he didn't know any other club that gets that type of support from benefactors. I think these guys are great. It seems like they don't look for rewards like having a say in football matters etc.. They are just passionate supporters.

My take is completely different. Defence and contest are ALWAYS the key to winning flags. Or problem was not that we stuck to that plan, it was that we attempted to move from it.

From the trackwatchers, it seems like there is no proper goalkicking practice, just the players practising boundary-line shots etc at their own pace and for fun. The shots that need to be practised are the ones from 20-40m out, straight in front or in a slight angle. And they need to be practised A LOT!!!! Including by our captain!

Completely true but" other " is a big word

My concern about this game - and its a huge one - is the fact that we aren't playing Campbell. Sam Mitchell was a great player but not the cleanest, and has taken his tactics to coaching. With the form that Max is in, I have absolutely no doubt that Lloyd Meek will be instructed to attack Max to the very edge of legality, if not beyond. If we had a genuine backup, that wouldn't happen because it wouldn't save Hawthorn from playing against a good ruckman. But I fear for the treatment that Max is going to get.

There is a great difference between playing a dead bat to questions at a press conference, which is what Goodwin should have done if there was an ounce of truth to the media beat up, and what Goodwin actually did, which was to say that there was no truth in these allegations. We have all read what ghostwriter has had to say about all of this and she clearly has a very good relationship with Oliver. Putting those things together, I think it is a whole media beat up where someone speculates and everyone builds on that. And I think that Goodwin has tried to put an end to it and an end should, indeed, be put to it.

Anyone listening to Goody's press conference today would know that this whole thread is a waste of space. I just wish the trolls would stfu.

I don't understand the academy system. Can someone explain why he is in it?

No "arguably" about it. When he signed he has won the AFLCA award twice in a row.

When I started reading this thread I thought it works be just humour, but there are some really thought-provoking ideas in it. The part about HR being too high because of all the chasing they are expected to do makes sense - as does the discussion about taking too long to lick. And I have written previously about how the FF should stay in the forward line and if the FB runs off him, it will be only once, until the FB is forced to pay the price.

Exactly the response I expect from you.

Grow up?? Grow up?? If you think the discussions have been respectful, you obviously haven't read them. It's a disgrace.

This thread, and the disrespect it shows to an absolute legend of the club, is shameful. Some absolute tripe gets written and now all the trolls come out of the woodwork to shaft one of the greatest MFC players ever. I don't believe for one second that he wants to leave or ever did, but if this is the support he gets, who would blame him?

Have you been watching this year? And perhaps listening to what Goody has been saying? Sparrow has been given very specific roles and is playing extremely well. Drop him? You are kidding!!

I suspect that the answer might be Kentfield but not until next year at the earliest. But he will have a great teacher.

Just as a matter of interest, Gawn is $301 for the Brownlow.

I'm not one to do my block but that was disgraceful. All that effort to set up chances and then laziness, sloppy work, even arrogance. They need the biggest spray of all time.