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Good idea. Get Jacko to teach Van Rooyen how to lead.

Joke all you like and post silly 😆s. I suppose that’s all you’ve got because you can’t argue with :- Fullarton 2 for 2, Van Rooyen 0 for 5 Ps. Clearly Fullarton isn’t the answer but neither is Van Rooyen the way he was playing. Unless Van Rooyen can change his ways and get mobile, particularly in leading up to the ball and giving options, I don’t think he makes it.

Whilst there’s NO doubt Fullarton has had very little of the ball there’s also NO denying the following fact. Van Rooyen Played 5 Lost 5 Fullarton Played 2 Won 2

As I have already ask you, does resting players justify the those remaining on the ground to 1. Put the que in the rack and 2. Butcher the ball and hitting their opponents on the chest with 25m kicks? Also, what example does it set Lindsay, Langford, Windsor, Tholstrup ? BTW, Richmond had less of a break than we did. What we served up in the last quarter was no better than that in our 4 straight losses this year and numerous losses late last year.

Nank, IMO, had bugger all to do with it. Solely to do with our own easing off. I’m happy we won. But that last quarter was at best, concerning and at worst, pathetic. Considering our very poor record in Final quarters this season as well as being 2nd last on the ladder I would have thought it would have somewhat redeeming if we put our foot on their throats in the last quarter. And to those who have issue with us easing up in the last qtr and cruising to a win, what do you say about the example being set to Lindsay, Windsor, Tholstrup and Langford by senior players putting the que in the rack?

Have you ever heard of the old saying “Don’t flirt with your form”?

Why should Gawn being off the ground result in the our players slacking off their efforts? Also what has Gawn sitting on the bench to do with some pathetic Melbourne turnovers hitting Richmond players on the chest?

Yes, it’s what I saw on the live Fox coverage. (I’ve just the checked the replay on the IQ box and unfortunately the game cut off with 2.5 minutes remaining. There was absolutely no emotion shown by Gawn when he engaged with Goodwin which appeared to leave him, Goodwin, perplexed. Maybe nothing to read into it but it didn’t look right. I took a couple of screen shot photos but can’t seem to upload them here.

Fullarton is considerably more agile than the Lumbering Van Rooyen. That alone makes our Forward line more functional. He also, IMO, gives Max a better chop out.

After the final siren, players celebrating, Gawn and Goodwin meet, NO sweet embrace, Max deadpan even scowlish, turns to Langford then smiles, Goodwin looking somewhat confused. Strange PS. Great win today. We keep winning, no problems for Goodwin. However, lose one of the next two then todays win doesn’t mean much.

Van Rooyen , was a Buy, now a Sell. I think we all missed seeing him as what he really is , “lumbering” , “moving in a slow, heavy, awkward way”.

Good changes. Whilst they mightn’t give us the Win we all hope for, they do give me a feeling of optimism. The reason is, it’s the first time I can recall Goodwin making a blunt statement at selection. In doing so he has also simultaneously shown he has some creativity as well as potentially will now no longer play his favourites. At least that’s a start.

Get on his bike and offer some LEADS

Just to clarify, my comment was a reaction to the original poster who has made many,many excuses in this thread, all firmly denying that our woeful efforts this season were anything to do with Goodwin or the players. According to him/her it was all to do with players needing more time to adjust to the “supposedly” “new” “game-plan”. Only now has that person suggested that “we’re not good enough”. Hence my post. IMO our current state of demise is due to 1. The attitude of our senior players. 2. The lack of depth in the List. 3. Goodwin. Also, the origin goes back to the Off Season immediately after the flag. Finally, as I have previously said here, I believe the time to act on Goodwin could/should have been after the unacceptable and inept performance of the North loss.

In other words, We’re just not good enough.

I think you’re confusing boring with Excellent. Nothing boring about our Grand Final performance nor the vast majority of the 2021 season. The problem is we haven’t been able get anywhere close to that level for the last couple of years. Would an Outdated, over exposed and hackney game style have anything to do with it?

We also lost Barassi to Carlton.

One would hope that the Powerbrokers would have started the discussion once the final siren blew after the North game.

Yes, the good news is we’re only 3 games and percentage outside the 8. 😉

The way things are going anything is possible. I wouldn’t even rule out a player revolt against Goodwin currently being the problem, of course that being contrary to the popular belief that the players “love” the coach.

On what basis should that performance be “all we can expect for the moment” ? Your comment suggests that we can expect improvement in the future. From where is this improvement to come?

Just curious, did you see Van Rooyen‘s “performance” last week?

A Very skilful player with quick reflexes so no problem when in traffic. He might struggle for pace when out in the open or when chasing an opponent. My current concern however is a doubt over his confidence and self belief. Given time, this should not be an enduring problem, we hope. However a situation arose on the Sunday footy show which doesn’t appear to be mentioned here (perhaps no one watches the show). On the handball segment Harvey’s effort on the right hand was diabolical (the worst I can recalling seeing). It was jarring to watch and the panel members seemed to be in shock. No doubt a humiliating situation for the young bloke to find himself in. I suspect he knew of the likely outcome as he was reluctant to use that hand, saying he wasn’t aware he needed to use the opposite hand. Regardless, he now has to deal with the embarrassment and possible ridicule from opposition supporters and maybe even players. Which leads me to question why did the club sanction his appearance on the show. Surely someone would have known his “capabilities” of handballing with his right hand.

What is the Value of Fritsch ? If he’s NOT kicking goals, what is he actually good for? Is it his run and carry, his defensive efforts, his pack marking, his physicality, his high possession count, his leadership qualities, his desperation, his clearance work?