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Can you explain your comment I amNot in sync with what you are intimating. Is it that 9 of our players went missing each game ?

Something says your desire to come up with a deal is overtaking realism in this proposed trade. Why should Melb pay $1.2 to Giants who have overpaid some of their top players for years so they can keep them and now Haines is yesterday's fish and chips wrapper. Just because we want Harley Reid. There are probably easier ways of getting hold of another top 10 pick and Suns and Cats might be a chance. And how do you know Melb might not prefer and be ready to throw $1.1 mill at a Harry McKay or other key forward. JT and his crew would be all over this I reckon and we may find out any moves over the next few trade days.

You would be pretty much the only person on the planet that thinks this way. I haven't seen either live and watched limited highlights but Reid gives you his package of elite skills plus kicks goals to boot. Ready made too to add to our mids list of stars etc. Would have to go higher in draft yo get either Thats the issue. I would be happy with 2 out of McKercher, Caddy or Watson. Suit our needs either way but still no Ruck backup. This is more a trade discussion not a draft need.

This post is in response to Dr Gonzo's above about a $1million he believes we get out of the NT sponsorship.

Where did you get $1mill. ? it's always been $500,000. It's most likely we could have this game substituted by a Marvel game which could be any if the home ground Marvel teams. A game vs Bullies or Saints is an away fixture and any interstate team we wouldn't make any real profit from anyway. Despite this our record at Marvel is good since we started winning there.We could get 28/30,000 plus vs Saints or Dogs not sure if that's a profit or not.

I don't think there is any guarantee that would happen continually each season. The fixture is a movable object and not all seasons draws are alike. It may occur but not as a definite part of our fixture annually and I can't see the Club asking for it necessarily. But it could nevertheless happen on occasions.

It's not status quo if Angus Harry Jake and JVR are available for all Finals in 2024 as they were not in 2023. That's a 2 and 7 point margin breaker by about 4/5 goals IMO.

Jake has earnt this on top of his feats in 2023. Who knows but our list is evolving and recruits and youngsters should provide enough excitement to join with the list staples champs and role players to mss add Le a serious assault on the 2024 flag.

Not really How do we know Lynch is going to be any better after his injury. Isn't he still in a moon boot?

The "crowd pitch" whatever that is don't know their footy. If Dees are to salute in either 2024/5 then Harry has to play Forward. The crowd are caught up like Goody was and even he realises Harry is just as suited up forward just as he is in defence and it makes us a much harder team to beat.

Obviously plenty to play out on this. Yes but he's always had the family pressure and that won't go away. End of day it's his decision and his partners really now.

As far as I have heard subject to medical checks Gus is intending to play on. So far he has received positive news from all medical tests. Needs another last result only now from a team of experts or such like.

Not sure your opinion on this is remotely accurate. If Melb forfeit their $500,000 game in NT Alice they would play their 11 th home game at the MCG or have one home game at Marvel which they have asked not to be fixtured over the last decade. The AFL would not take a genuine home game away from our fixture as all Clubs are entitled to 11 home games in their draw in a 22 game season. Your out of line call thetbthe AFL could schedule an 11th home game sat at Launceston's US University Ovsl and call it a home game vs the Hawks is never going to happen. No Club either is going to request that venue as Hawthorn has a 70% plus winning ratio there even though irbid helped by allowing for them playing interstate and lower Clubs at that venue. Don't worry it won't happen.

He might be Goody's successor in 2027 maybe.

Wrong we have Petty and potentially JVR short term and long term possibly MAtty Jefferson. And a high draft pick or big trade should see another. Not all lost adding in our other pieces in the puzzle.

To be honest Petty is the single best Hope we have of solving our forward line problems. I have no hesitation in saying he is/ will be a better player than McKsy Tilthorpe is still maturing and Lynch has been there done that. All our questions from D/Lers re Perry's injury should cool their jets and wait till he comes back. My opinion Harry is a better chance 7 years younger than Lynch at 31 with a season long foot problem. The karma of Tom playing a Maynard role has come back to bite. No way should Harry be available for trade he is worth 2 of the Crows young forward flankers.

That's not true Stafford has had 2 years to solve our forward issues no injuries and some. But no result

Dee above says Andrew is replacing Yze in his role as the mids coach.

This is what coaching and renewing game plans snd new staff are great. A new voice and ideas. Haven't heard of any other changes but will be furious if no forward coach change is made. I personally would have been happy for Andrew to be the new forward coach Let's wait and see.

Bang you are probably right that that was the reason he wanted out but the point I made is that ND was too ready to say yes only thinking that Jeff White could ruck alone and do the job. Of course Jama was around snd cover maybe but we lost out through ND too easy a yes to Jolly. Is what I gleaned to this trade. That in no way reflects what a great ruck Mark became culminating in 2010 with AA selection.

It is all about how he handles himself really. He had setbacks and remember the Club is not innocent in this charade. FD and Hoody. Who was running the medical reports? Goody should have been told to leave that to Selwyn each week and only do the facts not predictions on the next round or two. This did not help Clarry clearly. It confused and thsts the vision on the TV blowing up about his injury. I am not a medical person but it was a very long time before the issue was resolved. Wasn't there any other medical advice that could have been sought? A very hard lesson for all and again another reason why we missed out on 2nd plus winning tight Finals games at the end. Very many decisions over the season mainly last two months Leading up to games or in them resulted in us virtually losing the 1% ers that would have got us and not the Pies and Blues across the line. From the Schache sub to the Goal Reviews to the forward and connection decision making we made our own bed and had to lie on it eventually. Goody should own up about the sub decision as a mistake. Please don't go down the Rory Lobb path it's not leading any where. Let's get a big fish be it Lynch McKay or another if we can and make sure we get 2 elite recruits from the 4/5 picks we have. JT and Lambie should be burning the midnight oil in the next 6/8 weeks as they do so well. We looked a Club that couldn't control its destiny at the end and thsts the very difference between the Pies and other top teams this season. Lions made expensive GF errors 50m like us snd late red time after siren goals killed them. They agsin hit the run of the green with Daicos the underserving beneficionary of the first and virtually only head high tackle as he slid down to exaggerate his shoulder's position. Lions defence had lapses that always let The Pies recover. Guess the pressure is the issue same way we should have won but couldn't find a way. Win that QF and the Flag was probably ours Forwards injuries and all. All Clubs have seen the Pies blueprint for 51 games now and need to practise match situations far better to catch them out. Also greater aggression is necessary at the start and end of quarters. We are still in our prime but need a reality check with a recruiting splurge of a classy and confident outside runner plus big forward to join JVR Harry P and Fritta plus our smalls and mids and another young defender to add along with Disco Jed Adams for the near present and future also. Oh and a young Matt Flynn type to assist Gawny. We have no trouble attracting star players to our Club and we have the were with draft and trade tools to add another layer or two to our existing list Hope we can accomplish a great deal over the two periods upcoming so critical for our future.

See my take below on the same issue of Harry's price compared to Brody's.

Not every trade is the same GD. Carlton are not in a clearing salary dump like Pies and McKay is in his prime age 25 with 5/7 years to play. He also has recent form ( and potential to improve still). Brody had not played for 12 months virtually.and is 29 with maybe 3/4 years at most. First rounder plus second ( or both futures) would be best case scenario and 3rd/4th back possibly. The feeling is that Harry has much room for improvement in his game awareness and potential to be a 60 goal plus a season forward added to Petty JVR Fritta Trac Kossie McAdam ANB and Jefferson. Just imagine him tip the scales for us to swallow the four and 2 point losses with Harry parading the MCG! Makes me think 2 first rounders is more the go with the token 3:4 draft pick in return. Where do other D/Lers sit on this one presuming you are for this mega trade which might rescue the crucial life of a still to be ( potential) dynasty?

Jest ? or unaware Oscar not a twin!

His salary would be outrageous for us considering his output. Verrall May be a quick learner and be useful by end of 2024. Reckon we will get possibly Flynn hopefully,