Dee Boys

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1421830/gold-coast-suns-gun-sam-flanders-tells-club-he-wants-to-explore-trade-options

I’ll repeat again - a great footballer does not necessarily make a great coach. Dig a little deeper into his “coaching journey” and relationships with others.

Imagine if you let every player at your club demand to play whatever position they wanted, and acquiesced to it. That’d be superb coaching! Just the way to run a good footy club! Christ almighty.

You’d give away our only natural wingman for a bloke who can’t get in the midfield of the second worst team in the comp, wouldn’t get in ours, and is on a million bucks a year? Good lord.

I’m not sure if you’re being serious. How on earth did he “lie to him?” He said he’d give him some opportunity further up the ground, and did. Judd did not perform well when given this chance. What would you have liked Goodwin to do? Just continue playing him there when he wasn’t earning it? I repeat - this is AFL football, not local kids footy.

Yep, this is a fair summation.

Plus Treloar $300k for the past five years. And this was before the salary cap increase! Cal Twomey confirmed that next year's one-year deal with the Dogs is the first year Collingwood are off the hook for Treloar.

Lie to the kid's face?! Goody owed Judd McVee absolutely nothing. He picked him to play, from the obscurity of being one of the last picks in the rookie draft, in round 1 of his second season. A long time before most VFL watchers thought he was ready. But he clearly saw something in him and believed in him. But have to earn your position in the team. When tried further up the ground, Judd was poor. This season, Judd has been poor. I hope Ghosty is right and he commits (or has committed) to the club, but coaches don't owe players anything. If a player isn't performing up to scratch in a new role, why on earth would you keep him there? An AFL coach's responsibility is to win games of football, this isn't the under 10's where you try to give everyone a go.

The Isaac Smith who's about to turn 37 and retired two years ago?

I can tell you that the players also rate AMW extremely highly. He’s only 21 and has a big future for mine.

He’ll already know that. Our games aren’t behind closed doors!

MCG.

Buckley has his pros and cons, Kelly has his pros and cons. Reckon we’ll have done well with either. Sounds like it’s down to those two.

I would absolutely kill for Sam Mitchell to be our coach.

No he won’t. The bashing would be reserved for us, about how we’re such a basket case that even the Tassie job, with all the uncertainty that comes with it, was more attractive than ours. Nobody in the media’s going to bash anyone for choosing not to coach little old Melbourne.

Buckley wants the job. If we decide to go with another candidate (unlikely at this point despite Kelly’s incredibly impressive interviewing so far) then the club have told him he’d be welcome to announce he’s withdrawn from the process to enable him to save face. This was one of his requirements for going through the process. Agreeing to this, whilst admirable from the club, would lead to increased pressure on the successful candidate and the club itself. You can just imagine the grief we’d get from the usual suspects in the media for only getting our “second or third choice candidate” and “the club continuing to be a rabble”.

He was told on Monday.

Trent’s main issue, the one the football department are always onto him about, is his defensive work rate. Of everybody who played an AFL game this season, nobody has a higher missed tackle % than him. He’s around 45%, which is comfortably clear of the next worst player in the competition. The best two way mids are generally between 25-30%. That’s incredibly damning for a bloke who started off as a defender. Because of this he’s not getting the midfield time he wants, and the footy department are absolutely correct to demand his pressure and defensive intent improves before he’s a regular in there.

Players are generally pretty loyal. Especially if they’re playing for a big club/feel they’re close to challenging/getting paid good money. When it’s all three, like McKay, it becomes almost impossible to prise them out. This is the case for all clubs, big and small. Collingwood threw the kitchen sink at J Brown and N Riewoldt and couldn’t get either. Many, many more players choose to stay than leave every year. It often has to be an absolute perfect storm to be able to get a big name player to your club. We did all we could!

Lynch was just one. We’ve also thrown the kitchen sink at Georgiades, Morris, Waterman, Neale, Allen, McKay, Hawkins and Larkey over the last couple of years. People seem to wilfully ignore that when they say “we should’ve brought in a mature key forward”. We’ve been trying! It’s easier said than done.

Of course the Saints would do that. Windhager’s worth pick 25-30. Heath is worth a packet of chips. Why would we give up a future 2nd as well as a current 2nd?!

The fastest at the club at the moment is Kade Chandler. Windsor has said many times in interviews that Chandler comfortably has him covered.

The trajectories of Buckley and Goodwin's tenures were nothing alike. Buckley took charge of the youngest premiership list of all time, while Goodwin took over a rebuilding side that had last played finals a decade prior and last won a flag over 50 years prior. Buckley improved Collingwood's W/L record once during his tenure. One year out of ten.

Exactly. We are absolutely zero chance of another flag with a 34yo Steven May floundering and lumbering around in defence. His best is a long way behind him.

Selwyn specifically, they’ve said. I’m not just talking about vague sweeping statements of “mass change”.