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That was 1990 also. Really was our best chance of a flag. Injuries and the Collingwood V West Coast draw stuffed us that year.

Western oval 1987 and Windy Hill 1990 and Carlton Princes Park 1998, 3 of the best days I have ever had at the footy. Winning at the old suburban grounds actually gave the wins far more meaning and were so enjoyable. Was behind the goals at the scoreboard end as Bennett kicked 4 in the last quarter over my head, great memory, thanks for the footage!

Wet, wont suit us t, but both Preuss and VB at least are proven wet weather players (remember a 2018 game at Casey, Preuss at North and VB first up for the year in a super wet slog were clearly the 2 most influential players). If it's just a bit greasy and slippery, this will play right into the Pies hands as they have the smart players in Sidebottom, Pendlebury etc... who will play the conditions perfectly and we will most likely try to play dry weather footy chipping it around and handballing incessantly, hence our record in the wet is pretty ordinary.

biggest concern is the times suggest very little free to air exposure. Possibly the Port game, but all others have the foxtel time set up, which is disappointing when we have a game v Collingwood at 5.10pm on a Saturday and the later game looks pretty ordinary between Freo & Carlton likely on FTA. Sponsors may be a bit peeved with that one.

Hoping more that "he'll bring it on home"...….

No Fantasia, no Heppell for Johnnie Weasel and his injectors, with our full list, some good in's with AVB, Hanna and Wilson Pickett, it is basically a must win now!

The thing many forget is that we also had a few knee reconstructions! Sean Wight, Steven Clark (who was flying at that time) Trevor Spencer. Brian Wilson missed with Hammys, Alan Johnson missed most of the year and the mid season debacle saw Stuart Cameron and Robert Hickmott (now a Melbourne cup winning trainer) get guernseys after being depleted with injury, the fact we saw no more of them suggests we were undermanned (John Longmire kicks 14 against you, there is something wrong). Geelong led by 6 goals just before 3/4 time in the last game and we led by 10 goals, if they stayed in front or we had won by that margin (instead of falling in) we would of got the double chance. I agree that was the year we blew it (and maybe 98).

was first Saturday in September as the year was brought forward for the Sydney Olympics.

Brett Lovett 3 time team of the year (basically the All Australian equivalent before it officially existed)player, Ted Whitten stated on a few occasion's he was first picked for Vic State teams from 88-91. If EJ loved you, that means something! For those who didn't see him, think Neville Jetta except far better skilled on both sides of the body and could run through the mid-field. Tough as nails, didn't like going on the footy show though for his 200th!!! Steven Stretch wasn't the bravest player, but was instrumental in our better years of 87-91 with his sublime kicking, great leap and pace. Very good winger and could easily be top 20. Robbie would easily be 1, but he was only there for 87 and while still good, was on the way out. G Lyon at his best was probably our best, or Jimmy for sheer volume of consistent high performance. Agree Jakovich, Schwartz and Tingay may be far higher except for injury, if they stayed upright we probably wouldn't still be waiting for a flag and they could be 1,2,3 on the list. Alan Johnson also was excellent, but again apart from 88-89, a degree of his best work was probably prior to 87, his game in the Elimination final of 88 was brilliant, kept us in the game and then won us the game. S Febey and even Matt were both good players, Anthony Ingerson was a terrific player, hugely underrated by near all bar his opponents in the period of 96-2002 and was critically important in 98 and 2000 years when challenging for a flag (Carey once told me that both Neitz and Ingerson were in his 5 toughest opponents). J McDonald was great workhorse similar to Nathan Jones, stiff to miss. I think Neitz was a better CHB than FF still, while a great player he did have some very bad days at FF.

North I'd say have 16 of their best 28 playing (probably 10-11 of best 22) the 16 have been or will be regular senior players? I'd say we have 10-12 who'd fit that top 28-30 category of which probably only 5-6 are in best 22 though.? Their side looks stronger I'd suggest.

From Friday this was one of the reports: AVB - Our most physical player. Bashed and crashed his way around, including bringing down the non-contact Neitschke. Love having him back. Generally very involved; a full year of him on the park will make us so much better, as we all saw during our 18 finals run. Hope that didn't cause it!!

"He's just no good for you why are you going back, you deserve a whole lot better than that!! Sounds like each preseason to me... Greedy Smith and the Mentals - Pretty apt today!!

Happy Joel Smith has resigned. Lockhart and Dunkley ok as rookies, the rest don't inspire much confidence.

Go back and check Alex Rance first 4-5 years and Dylan Grimes first 4-5 years and what the Richmond supporters said about those 2, I can tell you first hand it was similar to the things many have said about Frost on here. This year has been the first year of greater consistency. They too (in particular Rance) made horrific skill errors at times between some terrific athletic defence in their first half dozen years in the system (Rance too was tried forward and on a wing in his first 3-4 years at times as they were worried about his brain implosions and horrible skill errors). I think like those 2, Frost will continue to improve his skills and decision making as he works out what he can and cant do well and his role in the team becomes clear with May and Lever.

Gil got his wish. https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-27/star-giant-rejects-bigmoney-offers-to-sign-massive-sevenyear-deal Carlton and Hawthorn now to have a crack at Langdon, Amon and Papley, players MFC should/are also targeting. Burgoyne will take 3 years at GCS in a Hodge/Mitchell like role.

Stokes luckiest bloke around. Could easily still be sitting in a prison cell, got lucky with the court system. Absolutely fluked the world cup final, anything that was needed that has never happened before in such circumstances occurred and now today so much luck despite the fact it was a good innings. Still very much luck got him over the line again. He shouldn't bother with lotto, surely he has used it all up by now.

For us oldies (I was only 7) but this now smells of 1981 when we had it won before Botham pulled the test out his backside ( Lillee and Marsh won a small fortune on the punt). If we won that test we retained the ashes and after losing we just imploded, can see it happening here as they are on paper pretty even.

Seriously professional umpire should be able to see the bleeding obvious. Yes we choked, we stuffed up royal, but still, so did the umpire as that was just plum even on the tv. Just awful all round.

Apparently he is good at fund raising? As for Jesus H Christ I thought he played full back at Jerusalem?

or Attended both games, both awesome days at the footy but 87 still just about the best day ever!!

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-08-20/lewis-says-farewell Not one for reading the Tea leaves and conspiracy crapola, but the handshake didn't really appear to be too warm from Lewis? At the end, BV, TV and I wish another person with a V surname (think it was Gary Pert and Chaplin though) were around talking to him, but no Goodwin. Wondering if he actually did want to go around again? His comments and those of Goodwin don't have me thinking he will be at Melbourne in a coaching capacity next year. Anyway, he had a great career and came across when no one else would, trying to get us to take the next step. Still in our best 22 at the minute and giving more effort than most, despite him being almost done. Maybe he can Iron out Goldstein again (lets say legally this time) for old times sake to help us win Saturday! His efforts have been underrated by many since joining and he has been our best recruit up since Bernie Vince in my view.

Been a member 25 years and bought family memberships for the past 15 years when the wife has no interest and never attends and the kids tickets are shuffled between nephews and nieces. After this year, I will definitely downgrade to just a ticket for myself and forget the effective donation of an extra $200-$300 for the other tickets. Similar to @beetle, I feel compelled to contribute in the unlikely event we are ever any good, but the finances can't keep donating as much to rubbish. I might even get back into local footy coaching to ensure I can't ruin my weekends watching them!

Stokes and Bairstow are their fighters. Wont feel like we will rush through the rest until we get one or both of these two.

Ian Chappell was just before my time, I only caught the very end of his career in 79/80. I have certainly heard he was someone to bat for your life. Hussey was great too, probably just didn't have the lifespan of the others having started his place in the Aust team late in career, only reason though I'd have him a peg below.

Haha beat me to the submit button!! Agree