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a star? lol.

a star? lol.

i'm just sick of watts not going hard at the footy. i'd prefer tom mcdonald torching the ball in the d50 than see Watts playing bruise free footy

ok admittedly im not a jack watts fan. he has infuriated me from the start with his soft football and to be honest I'm a bit surprised that people aren't glad for the trade. I acknowledge that it maybe couldve been handled a bit better but at the end of the day goodwin doesnt want watts in the team and blind freddy can see its because he plays weak footy. Its not jacks fault, he just doesnt have that killer instinct to tackle or chase with ferocity. you can't teach that and why does everyone go mute when we talk about this issue. if we make finals next year i'd trust watts to kick straight but i would never trust him to put his head over the footy or back into packs etc. his efforts in the phyical department are up there with cale morton

People worried about Watts playing a blinder against us? He had 2 blinders in his 150 games, lol! He'll be delisted in 2 seasons. Another feather in Goodwins cap.

watts and pick 10 to the pies for pick 6. pick 6 and 27 for lever. Watts is a glorified casey player so i think a deal like this is fair.

demonland has stooped to a new low. who cares how nice he is! its about making our club ruthless again and jack is the least ruthless on the list. He shouldve gone years ago. All year (in fact the last several years) we have had to carry watts and his weak defensive and tackling efforts. The only reason why Watts managed to last this long is because Roos, Neeld etc. all came along and wanted to see if they could change him..but they couldn't. And anytime you mention the elephant in the room which is that he is arguably the softest player in the league, i hear the same dribble.."...but his skills are good'. The reason jack has been loyal is because he wouldnt have been playing footy at most other clubs and we gifted him the first 100 games of his career.

it all comes down to how we rate watts. goodwin doesn't rate him and either do i. i dont recall him backing into a pack once in his 9 year career. his tackling efforts are nothing short of a disgrace.

Its pretty easy. pick 10 and 27, take it or leave it. if we don't get Lever, so be it. We pocket the draft picks and enjoy Jason Taylor nail another top 10 pick!

Lever was one of their best in the first half. He did well and showed that he cared when he gave it to Townsend at the quarter time break. Beggers can't be choosers, we have Oscar 'deer in the headlights' Mcdonald at the moment for christ sake.

Round 23 has way too much focus. We were so sh!t against north melbourne twice, and what about against Freo at the G and even brisbane at the G. Pathetic efforts which are bound to happen when you have guys that choose when to dig in or not.

He also plays like the timid kid he was when he first started. He has more confidence with the ball in hand but his defensive pressure stuff is why he is getting the boot and fair enough. Hogan has to improve in this area too. We can't have a forward line of Hogan and Watts. Watts runs around the pressure and never straight lines the ball or man and Hogan spends too much time on the ground or staging. This is the biggest blessing in disguise

no idea what you just said

delete thread. - N.Jones for a first rounder??? (3rd at best) - T.Mcdonald mid first and late 2nd?? The guy puts a blow torch to the ball in the backline.

i can't believe this thread has got so much momentum. The last 2 premiership teams, the Dogs and the Tigers show that you can't have guys like Watts running around who blows over in the wind. You need relentless pressure and intensity. Watts has neither but for some reason people on here are like 'oh but he has nice foot skills'. There you have it, you've prioritised foot skills before hunger and thats an amateur way of building a list. Hunger and appetite for the contest always comes first. I'm really excited about Watts going. Finally I can rock up to the footy and be one step closer to 22 men applying manic pressure instead of 21.

youre talking about 1 game? he has been an average player over his 8 years. He has been inconsistent in his good form but his poor second efforts (and poor first efforts) have been consistent to a point where our expectations of watts are so low

Nah I like it. He would definitely be top 22 for us. He runs very hard both ways, he can even tag if we need. We'd get him for cheap and he will make our team better. Very much a 'moneyball' selection and I like it. Good post

half of the buffoons on this site wanted him dropped because of his foot skills. He attacks the man and ball with ferocity and showed he has goal sense.

Umm Adelaide lose out. Lever just for pick 10 ? The later picks cancel themselves out so Lever for just pick 10 is not enough.

I couldn't be more happy to see Watts go. This is like Christmas coming early. Whoever wants to keep Watts can't see the forest for the trees. You can't carry soft guys like Watts, especially in finals. Every week he plays we know one thing and that is that he isn't going to give 100% and that his tackling efforts will be disgraceful. Pedersen played better in 5 games than Watts has showed in his whole career. Give him away for some steak knives and thanks very much.

good break down. I think its interesting to reflect back on players in the past that didnt make the grade. At the time they are often praised and worshiped on this board but when they get delisted theres not a peep from anyone. why did people think that the following players simply werent up to afl standard: - Bate - Morton - newton -strauss - tapscott - blease -maric

he's had a tough year personally so i'll be kind but he needs to improve his defensive pressure. He doesn't apply any at all. And he needs to stop staging for free kicks in marking contests. Also his kicking for goal needs a lot of work. so whilst he's had a bad year personally i think he needs a strong pre-season otherwise he may lose his spot in the team if pederson continues to bust his arse and perform for us. If hogan learns to play with defensive intent then i'll forgive him for everything else

id take him for sure. has shown he has the talent and is still only young. i would certainly have him before gaff. who knows, maybe he could be reinvented as a backman.

hell no!! He is too soft. He had some games this year where the eagles fans wanted him out of the side. He plays in an era where the game is analysed by stats and possession counts which flatters him but he doesn't put his body on the line or hurt you with his possessions. I agree that we need outside run but only someone that breaks lines and has pace. Gaff is none of these things.

lets no shoot down the poster for suggesting trading gawn for kelly. i dont agree with it but at least he understands that you have to give up quality to get quality. some people on here were suggesting watts and Spencer etc. i think gawn will return back better next season but gawn wasnt in the top 10 ruckman this season even when playing