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Agree it's slightly unders but we knew we'd be getting unders when we publicly kicked him out. It'd leave us with 28,30 and 35...I'm sure Taylor can't do some pretty good things with those 3.

AFL trade radio just announced that a journalist on the floor has said that Watts has nominated PORT. They have pick 30 and 33 so who knows. Maybe just pick 30 for Watts it seems

How about Geelong handover pick 34 and pick 21 for Watts and we give them back pick 28

seems about right

worry about that when it comes. Who knows, big chance Hogan will go back to WA and we'll get 2 first rounders. It's too hard to predict with the current footy landscape.

man, i posted the wolf of wall street video a week ago! Ripped my material!

why would we get rid of watts, only to pick up Schache who reportedly has competitive and resilience issues himself. No thanks!

exactly. i'm so sick of all of the excuses for him being soft; 'oh not every player is a jack viney', 'lets look at his positives' etc. jack is a fringe player who was given so many opportunities to perform. he was supposed to be our fastest player on the list when aaron davey was still in the team but he doesnt use it. We picked him up because at the time we were in need of a key fwd and he performed well at the draft camp with the sprints and jumping tests and he also presents very well. what they cant measure is ones hardness and competitiveness to succeed.

I agree that they are a bit neater and also a previous post that he does play within his own limitations but to me it's the decision making. Like whenever T.Mcdonald is playing in the backline, he immediately looks inboard and often turns it over.

Frost Hunt and Lever in the same backline would be awesome rebound. Coupled with Hibberd and Jetta who are elite, our backline is almost a strength now. What does this mean for Col Garland?? He's still on the list right?

well considering I rate cyril higher than Lever. Lets not forget cyril helped hawks win 3 flags I'd go Cyril and every other player from 2007. so thats 10 combinations and then Dangerfield is also better so I'd take Dangerfield and any other player in 2006 so that's another 10 combinations. So that's a sub-total of 20, plus i'd probably prefer Docherty and Phil Davis so in total there are 21 combinations that i'd prefer over 1 jake lever.

true. but doesn't mean we have to play him. Dan Butler is another one but yeah you're right there wasn't really anyone else after him.

OMac is a spud. i'm sure I'd get better as the year wore on too! Not sure how he is on an afl list to be honest.

yeah good post.. great pick ups. although, Lewis was pretty crap this year. i don't care where he came in the best and fairest. He turned the ball over a lot and he was brought in to provide leadership so he comes in and gets reported and you could argue that it cost us a finals spot.

true. but i think taylor would've told mahoney to get me in the top 4 because he loved oliver so much

good post. i agree with some of it. missing out on josh kelly in favour of salem and tyson clearly was a loss. we cant deny that. we spent a lot on melksham and similar for frost but theyve been great for us and looking back on those picks, there wasnt anyone taken at their picks that were decent. i think its important to look at it as a whole. we have frost, melksham, vince, tyson and salem who provide us with depth that we didn't have. oliver was all jason Taylor, not Mahoney.

We definitely bent over but I would've been more disappointed if we didn't get Lever at all so I'm happy with it. Adelaide are now my most hated team though. The way they acted in this off-season plus their pathetic effort against the eagles which kicked us out of the finals.

This thread is infuriating. People need to up their medication if they think Watts is staying. Geez!! This thread is about what we will get in return, not if he will stay or not

I believe they will be giving us a late first/early 2nd round pick back to equalise that trade LT

you can say that..if you think that oscar mcdonald is likely to win a friggin brownlow. lol! i'd say lever is a 95% chance of earning AA honours at some point in his career. Oscar Mcdonald 0%. if you want me to rephrase i'll say you compared Lever, 'a likely AA in the future, who has already made the AA squad, to Oscar mcdonald.

people still thinking he's going to stay? LOL. We'll accept anything to get him out the door. The club doesn't want him, get it through your minds!

wrong. he has regularly shown to be a deer in the headlights and a poor decision maker.

close minded people Just see the age and get put off. We have guys like Trengove, Kennedy-Harris and to be honest even Tyson and Vince were pretty dreadful this season. Gibson trumps them all by a fair margin. It's not like our list is impeccable. We came 9th people.

If you're in the squad at 21/22 years old then it's fair to assume.

agree 100% with you Scoop Junior. People need some perspective here. Sure we missed out on finals this year but people do forget just how bad we were. Most of our games were over at 1/4 time. Whether it be 5 goals to 0, 7 goals to 2..etc. we were pathetic. Roos brought us back to relevancy. People should be grateful!