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Nice to be here in September and not May.

If Jackson has strong ties with his family, and particularly connected relationships with his parents, then that is fantastic. Well done to the parents for fostering such a connection. Family matters deeply, and so it should - and it's great that he can recognise it and also get gainful employment in an industry that he is competent at and in a location that he desires.

Open to the idea of exploring Oscar Allen... do WCE and Freo trade with one another? Ensuring Jackson does get to Freo (if that is his wish) and we still get someone of some value?

Personally, I think any player or coach who has helped me have a sliver of sporting joy in my life by winning a premiership can do whatever the [censored] they want without any grievance...

A sincere well done guys for doing this Pod. I'd be calling if sick if I was a presenter.

All our losses (bar Geelong) looked exactly the same - 4-5 goals up by half time and ultimately a 3-5 goal loss. Put your conjecture here! Loading Fitness Culture Defensive Structure Goodwin Bathwater Hunted Forward and Mid Pressure Whipping Boys (ANB/ Spargo/Sparrow) Selfishness So many options to debate…

Oh? I figured by posting 'Bye Bye Jackson' in a thread specifically detailing Luke Jacksons Contract, where there has been no formal concrete information, that it inferred you knew something. My mistake.

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Wanna bet - have you not read the previous 20 pages....

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Really? Please explain more ...

Good on you for self reflecting that this thread is ultimately about you and your own relationship to what your expectations were.

Ahhh, I get it (I think) - I think what you're misinterpreting is that those that believed things would resolve, did not have ANY concerns at all. What I am saying is that there are many entitled (ie: we SHOULD have won, ergo, x player is a spud, coach is stubborn) posts - and THAT entitlement/expectation coming off the back of last years Premiership SHOULD mean that we got to a prelim at a minimum... it's a failure to take into account a myriad of other factors. Matter of fact, for those that raised concerns - there should be less vitriol! ps...nothing in this below GIF - just riffing on your Pulp Fiction one. 👌

🤷‍♀️ Those folk are probably not as invested about writing vitriol about players and coaches as some others are, nor the need to respond to try to convince those that ARE writing vitriol to think differently perhaps?? From my vantage point, the disappointment in this thread is understandable, the entitlement and subsequent repercussions required is absolutely astounding though.

Can you be a good coach AND have things to work on and address?

@SaberFang20 points! Ka-ching!

I think there is a thread on here, that you can re-open!

I mean I'm not pessimistic, AND all of us on this thread knows how it will end right? 😂

Say hi from all of us from Demonland!

mmm, we appear to be fairly banged up and knocked around.

are you the real Ben Beams? 😍

Otherwise they'll miss next week!

Well the Dr would be deemed negligent to allow x person to play. I'm not worried.

@Watson11, that's a nicely nuanced response. Sorry, I was probably a bit unclear. For me, I am not delineating between soft tissue and impact injury. I'm discussing what you've termed 'resilience' and people's relationship to pain and thus how it informs pain management and consequently how to manage training with injury. What we know is, is that tissue repairs at a maximum of 12 weeks (ie: broken bone). If pain persists, it is driven psychologically, and that is all down to the 'meaning' that someone puts on the pain experience. Phantom limb pain is a great example of people experiencing pain, where there is no tissue damage (because there is no actual tissue to damage). The extension to this (as I am essentially discussing chronic pain) is that before the decent into chronicity, so 'acute' injury, we know that 'meaning' influences the pain experience. The fear of re-injury is greater than the injury itself. An aside, did you know orchestral violinists experience greater pain than a soccer player, if they get a paper cut? My point to all of this is that, he probably wouldn't be telling the Dr that TMAC 'needs' to train through the foot pain, but it is probably worthwhile exploring the meaning around it for TMAC to assess whether there is tissue damage (eg: inflamation) or whether the felt experience of pain is driven by something else all together. Couple this philosophy with, training through niggles, and then we start to see that windows of tolerance of the athletes get larger both psychologically and physiologically due to their own understanding of how pain works, and that the pain experience can be amplified - and not a true reflection of actual tissue damage. The inverse is true - some dude in the 1989 Grand Final played an entire match with broken ribs (was it a punctured lung as well?). That ability is all about that persons interpretation of meaning of pain... and that interpretation (and thus willingness) would have been quiet different if it was Round 8 in 1989.

Yes, good to tease that out.