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Language is important. And the 'felt' experience of Jayden is true for him. If he felt pushed out then that is a real experience, feeling angry, feeling sad. However, I'd imagine the conversation didn't go like 'Jayden, we're pushing you out'. The FD role is to perpetually improve the list, that is their intention, even with good servants, and even with people that the supporters like. Nonetheless, I am sure clear and concise information was given to Jayden (as it fits in with the culture of respect and transparency) as to why it would be good for him to explore options (as I am sure his manager was already doing this). Overall this is a little vignette of when a club is pushing to remain top 4 for a few years to come. The trade off between being loyal to incumbents and seeking to improving lists, whilst understanding that incumbents have a right to seek greater security, or greater pleasure in roles, or role clarity elsewhere if they can. Clearly the FD see Jayden's deficits as a bigger threat to potential premiership success than his assets. I'd also argue that if Jayden was on the list for another year, and happened to have Bowey or someone is surpass him. Then he may be languising in the 2's and thus miss out on an opportunity to be on a list after that. So if we get all Brene Brown - 'being clear, is being kind' - and it's actually a compassionate and humanistic act to give him that information for him to choose to seek opportunities elsewhere.

Has he/the club, confirmed he is gone? 😔 People talk about the headband... I'll miss the blonde 'mo'...if that's what the kids call it these days.

It certainly felt in 2021 - that Max would drift back to intercept in the D50/ half back line - far more frequently than he did this year? Not sure if others saw it the same way.

Curious... Is getting "as fit as he ever has been", the same as being less injured, and less 'coming back' from injury?

What! A! Post! I presume you had some knowledge @Ouch!?

#Grundymyths

Good research, and looks damning... Anything on Essendon or Western Bulldogs @Roger Mellie? * I wouldn't know where to begin to source that info...

Thanks, there is a lot I don't consider when it comes to future rule adjustments... @Demons11 what's your take on why most clubs (but not all??) would play 2 rucks... what's the purpose, what does it allow? And if you have the 2 best, what advantage does that give you - beyond hit outs, and hit outs to advantage?

I wonder what the specific strategy of getting Grundy across to co-exist with Gawn is, that, wouldn't render Gawn (or Grundy himself) into marginal roles... There has to be a highly specific reason/plan/strategy why the FD want Grundy as a direct replacement (not necessarily like for like) for Jackson, What are his attributes that he has displayed historically, that can help the team system, and contribute in a meaningful way that his highly specific attributes allow...whilst ALSO allowing the premier ruckman in the league, who also has highly specific yet different attributes, also flourish, and thus help the team achieve the aim of another premiership. It's probably not about bombing it into the F50 pockets...I'd be pondering it a bit deeper than that.

Anyways, there’s this weird thing going on in this thread that people buy into that if it’s not in the media overtly then nothing is happening? Why do folk believe that the absence of reporting infers the absence of enquiry and that we (just like every other team) are looking at improving the list whilst trying to balance - $, roles that people will play, attributes, values etc etc with what the club wants vs what the individual desires… it’s just happening in the quiet (as it is with 90% of convos) I can’t imagine Nippy only received a call in the last 3 weeks from WCE… can you?

Negative a.f

Disagree that 'they got us' - I feel it's a bit more nuanced than mrerely that Dazzle, I attribute it to, our injuries caught up finally, as they had being doing in game for most of the last 2.5 months. The output from the injury toll incrementally got worse... some more significant than others (Oliver thumb and eye socket, Petracca fractured tibia)... etc etc. Brisbane are a 7-5 side at best....

Sounds like it's on... Andy Lovell, Craig Turley, Steven Armstrong, Paul Johnson, some luminaries there... well maybe just one.

Holy hell, did we come 17th? 😂

I strongly disagree with this statement... and am surprised people still go with it....or perhaps I shouldn't be.

Is there a way that he could get to the Demons? What is he worth? What would we give up? Is Luke Jackson part of this? Would he complement our forward line? Would he compliment our system? Would our system need to change?

No reason given Dazzle... it was there and then around 10 minutes later it was gone. **I'll try my luck again"

He can’t do it yet as nothing is certain… How would you receive it if he did it before the trade was locked in?

I put it up - titled it ‘Is Aaron Naughton posting on Melbourne Demon players socials yet?’ And it was taken down posthaste! I was marginally upset. 😂

Marcus, are there vibes you are picking up on?

Ermmm, are we talking about the same player?

Poor ba$tard - he'd better perform, or he'll be more of a Demonland whipping boy than Spargo and ANB combined...

Thanks for that @xman97 is this a direct way of interpreting it via how I assume the NBA works? I am so naive in this area.

Must have misinterpreted this... my apologies.

Hence Goodwins unusual overt frustration in the post game presser against The Bulldogs...