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I'd like to think that our President, if and when approached, would answer tough questions and not run for the hills though.

How many years had Fagan done his apprenticeship for? I think young coaches get thrown in too quickly these days perhaps? There's really no way Simon couldve kept/overhauled our club culture as well as coach and develop, in that regard, I feel sorry for him.

We had won 4 out of the last 5 so we were in form. However I don't think we had been playing as well as people think, but found a way to win. I do get what you're saying and it's totally fair. But we have also ran out the last two games quite well physically, so I don't buy into the fatigue factor as much. We definitely lack confidence, I personally think this comes from the top (Goodwin). Anyway, we were still playing terribly early in the season without travel, so my lack of confidence in Simon stands. Thanks for proving facts and info, appreciated by all.

Thanks for this, nothing wrong with home truths at all. Wonder why Bartlett has gone silent and cannot be contacted?

That makes me miss playing footy Pates, those were the days, too fat and slow now. I agree the 8 rewards mediocrity, but if they didn't have that middle bunch vying for a spot there'd be so many one-sided games in the last part of the season. I'm also not a fan of a wildcard either. I do wonder if these hub set ups will get the AFL thinking of a two tier comp or a conference style set up going forward, may never happen but it makes me wonder sometimes, how or if it would even work, people who watch US sports may be better to comment.

I don't understand many of our selections over the last few years tbh.

Only slightly worse than Geelong who are flying and Sydney are playing better towards the end of this season, understand your point but interstate clubs do this every second week normally, West Coast go ok as do Brisbane and Port. Cairns is a 2hr flight and it is our choice to play in Alice Springs for financial reasons. I can understand if we were getting fatigued towards end of games, but that certainly hasn't been a factor in the last two games, we just don't turn up, with any sort of plan and lack effort, that's inexcusable.

Yeah agree, first I’ve heard of that one, people in my circles say Goodwin put both McCartney and Jennings’ noses out of joint.

Would love to see stats on this, good point, has been going on for as long as I remember with a couple of exceptions!

Only slightly worse than Geelong. They haven’t shown signs of fatigue.

By definition yes mate, but with our own eyes, no. Also great work on the fixture thread, our draw is marginally only slightly worse than Geelongs, what are your thoughts on that? We’ve definitely been given a tougher run but we usually travel well. Good info thanks

Haha yeah GWS loses and all of sudden Goodwin can coach again, gotta laugh! anything is possible I suppose.

It doesn't bother me what other clubs do mate, only ours.

That's my point. Easier to recover. Besides I'm not making excuses for the club. Our form early in the season didn't set the world on fire either.

I agree DubDee, I've always thought he has massively underperformed for the list he had.

ahhhh the Melbourne way, rely on others for us to scrape in. It'd be the worst possible thing for us to make finals now, we dont deserve it and members dont deserve Goodwin to continue his contract, gotta laugh though.

Unfortunately that is the worst thing that could happen to this club, who wants another two years of ups and downs. Well done to Crows, playing with spirit and not much skill lately, second win, well done.

Meanwhile Crows may upset GWS here.

Lyon and Roos are good mates, wonder what they discuss behind the scenes re Goodwin and Dees. Lyon would have some good intel imo, anyway random thought.

Thats depressing when you put it like that. Not to mention Goodwin continues to play Brayshaw everywhere but where he plays his best. Hmmm.

Unsure about Jackson and Pickett so far, shown glimpses but I'll be happy to wait another year to see what they have. Rivers though looks a natural footballer with composure, unsure on leg speed but happy with him so far.

Let's also not forget game time is 20% less this year to so I don't buy into the bye or fatigue issues, maybe mental fatigue from the players for not having a coached plan each week is more likely. Approx 240mins less in 15 games, roughly 2-2.5 games of normal footy, so we'd be about 12.5 games and we are fatigued? This with a full list and a supposedly awesome pre season.....

Yet clubs struggle after a bye, even some of the best clubs like the Cats. Plenty of examples a bye is worse, so what’s our excuse? Edit: haven’t compared this year.

It’s not McKennas fault we are rubbish and don’t turn up to games of football and have been poorly coached for years Jesus Christ.

I thought of this however I don’t think it explains not being able to bend down, I’m no doctor though, just an observation.