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Only slightly worse than Geelong who are flying and Sydney are playing better towards the end of this season, understand your point but interstate clubs do this every second week normally, West Coast go ok as do Brisbane and Port. Cairns is a 2hr flight and it is our choice to play in Alice Springs for financial reasons. I can understand if we were getting fatigued towards end of games, but that certainly hasn't been a factor in the last two games, we just don't turn up, with any sort of plan and lack effort, that's inexcusable.

Yeah agree, first I’ve heard of that one, people in my circles say Goodwin put both McCartney and Jennings’ noses out of joint.

Would love to see stats on this, good point, has been going on for as long as I remember with a couple of exceptions!

Only slightly worse than Geelong. They haven’t shown signs of fatigue.

By definition yes mate, but with our own eyes, no. Also great work on the fixture thread, our draw is marginally only slightly worse than Geelongs, what are your thoughts on that? We’ve definitely been given a tougher run but we usually travel well. Good info thanks

Haha yeah GWS loses and all of sudden Goodwin can coach again, gotta laugh! anything is possible I suppose.

It doesn't bother me what other clubs do mate, only ours.

That's my point. Easier to recover. Besides I'm not making excuses for the club. Our form early in the season didn't set the world on fire either.

I agree DubDee, I've always thought he has massively underperformed for the list he had.

ahhhh the Melbourne way, rely on others for us to scrape in. It'd be the worst possible thing for us to make finals now, we dont deserve it and members dont deserve Goodwin to continue his contract, gotta laugh though.

Unfortunately that is the worst thing that could happen to this club, who wants another two years of ups and downs. Well done to Crows, playing with spirit and not much skill lately, second win, well done.

Meanwhile Crows may upset GWS here.

Lyon and Roos are good mates, wonder what they discuss behind the scenes re Goodwin and Dees. Lyon would have some good intel imo, anyway random thought.

Thats depressing when you put it like that. Not to mention Goodwin continues to play Brayshaw everywhere but where he plays his best. Hmmm.

Unsure about Jackson and Pickett so far, shown glimpses but I'll be happy to wait another year to see what they have. Rivers though looks a natural footballer with composure, unsure on leg speed but happy with him so far.

Let's also not forget game time is 20% less this year to so I don't buy into the bye or fatigue issues, maybe mental fatigue from the players for not having a coached plan each week is more likely. Approx 240mins less in 15 games, roughly 2-2.5 games of normal footy, so we'd be about 12.5 games and we are fatigued? This with a full list and a supposedly awesome pre season.....

Yet clubs struggle after a bye, even some of the best clubs like the Cats. Plenty of examples a bye is worse, so what’s our excuse? Edit: haven’t compared this year.

It’s not McKennas fault we are rubbish and don’t turn up to games of football and have been poorly coached for years Jesus Christ.

I thought of this however I don’t think it explains not being able to bend down, I’m no doctor though, just an observation.

They did start the season well? Wins over Rich and Bris from memory then capitulated in others. Clarko just needs a fresh start IMO. You dont win 4 flags from being a mediocre coach

I haven't been as bullish on Taylor for quite some time now, feels like he loves a gamble. Rivers is good but a fairly easy choice at the time. If I were the club I'd let go Goodwin, Mahoney and Taylor. Look to successful organisations like Geelong, Brisbane and Hawthorn.

Does anyone remember Tom Hawkins back injury at a guess 5 or so years ago, couldn't jump, bend down or move. This is what I think TMAC has got, I could be wrong but considering he's one of the fittest going around, doesn't make sense. Unless he's had a barney with the coach?

I mentioned him in my last post, not a fan, ask Bombers supporters too. Could play for sure but similar issues to what we are having.

You mean like McCartney, Rawlings or Jennings? What can't people see here. Re coach, it needs to come from imo: Clarkson, Longmire, R Lyon, B Scott, Fagan, C Scott, Beveridge, Hardwick, Hinkley, Simpson, Ratten. I'm not sold on Worsfold. We need someone with a bit of inspiration and drive. Of course many of those we just won't get but that's the path I think we need to take, we can't afford any more rookies, not until we are on our feet properly. Surround one of the above with Solomon, Voss, Mitchell, Hodge or Hayes. I also think Mahoney should go along with Goodwin and I'm still not sold on Taylor either. Bit of a mess when you actually look over the whole club tbh.

I don't buy into the travel rubbish. We have travelled well in previous years with a decent away record. If Sam Landsberger thinks we are still going ok then he is off his tree. It's not just the last two games, its over the last few years. We have bashed up lowly teams, even when we have won some, we've still played crap with no structure for most of the game only to kick away at the end (think Adel). When did Melbourne put in their last 4 quarter effort? Cairns is only a 2 hour flight from Bris, conditions were the same for all teams. We played (like usual with no system or plan and run around with heads cut of, while the opposition has so much space to mark, run and carry, especially out of defence but easily through the middle too. We guard space, not players, hence UC marks differential. The same issues have been there for 3 or more years. Season on the line, finals on the line, yet we don't show up? You can see there's a bit of squabble between the players now too. I truly believe Goodwin has no idea, we are meant to be ruthless and play with a brand yet skirt the boundary and are 18th for tackles and was it 13th for clearances? There is no play, its grab ball and bash it forward then repeat. Thats bush footy stuff. If we can't beat two mediocre sides with finals on the line then something is seriously up. You can excuse skills but you can't excuse a plan and effort. Good and well coached sides find a way. We have had 24 goalless quarters under Goodwin FFS, when is the evidence enough?! He is so out of his depth it isn't funny, you can just tell by looking at him in the box, then we see game day. He's lost the players, there is no plan and they dont trust him, neither do supporters.