Mach5

Maybe we should ask the question of Nick Riewoldt too? Wayne Carey? Kernahan? Maybe Garry Lyon or the Ox want another go?

Just glad we haven’t coughed up Sydney’s F2. I expect next year to be a fruitful deathride with the Swans losing Mills indefinitely & their dearth of tall defenders.

End of First. Which is 2nd really, which I think is fair. Over time I’ve rated Gresham’s excellent agility. It hasn’t always translated to success but he’s been in poor systems.

Wow, surprised how much supporters overrate Harmes. He’s barely had 1 good season. 2018 he looked good in the back half of the season but beyond that he has been very average.

Can confirm this.

Beside McAdam and Fullarton..?

I reckon we’d be happy with either Duursma or Reid (how could we not be?) But we might find ourselves offering our pick bounty of 6 &11 to North for pick 2 (better picks than what WC traded for pick 2 last year), knowing one of them would be available, and giving North enough higher end picks to package with their late first rounders to finally entice pick 1 out of WC to guarantee they get Reid.

A lot of hype around North offering 4x first rounders. Not sure how pick 21 and a future End-of-first-round pick (i.e. after) qualify. Our hand would beat that, if it were to come to it. I don’t think North will entertain 2&3 and we’ve beaten them to the punch in acquiring earlier picks... unless they approach Geelong. Who I think is our next stop.

Funny that I’ve been calling him “Heyne” thinking others were getting it wrong, but I had Haynes confused with a St Kilda reject from 12 years ago.

The deal for pick 11 looks incredibly one-sided. So there are 2 potential outcomes we are aiming for from this (potentially either would satisfy us): 1. We orchestrated the move with a deal in mind that will require pick 11 and make the lopsided nature of the initial trade seem irrelevant (see Hogan for picks that acquired May, Steven); OR 2. There is a player we think is very likely to be available at pick 11 that is unlikely to be available at 14 and worth the price we paid. I think the first option is more likely, but hopefully both are true in case the first does not come to fruition. Chances are that that players we have our eyes on that would have been taken with the 2 later picks that went for pick 11, will still be available with the late picks we hold (e.g. Brown & Andrew)

There ya go. And Twomey knows more than me.

Don’t believe everything you read... although if you read my posts you’d notice I’ve said he’s rated about pick 6 all along. I can’t imagine we are making these moves if we haven’t had it made very clear to us what it will take to get a deal done.

Yes, but in basic terms, WC wouldn’t accept pick 5 from us purely based on the club offering pick 4 making an insulting offer the day before. They won’t cut off their nose to spite their face.

Letting this marinate for a while, North’s approach would appear to align with my original thoughts on acquiring pick 4 from GC - if they are desperate to move the pick, they’ll take the best offer available. In spite of insulting offers, they won’t cut off their nose to spite their face. So North are conducting a slow auction. They have the picks to beat anyone else’s bid. Now they lowball, wait for a better offer to come in, then decide if they want to beat that offer. Slightly. No need to sell the farm. Westcoast know that if they want to move pick 1, it’s likely North will have the best offer unless another club loses their mind.

Twomey’s reported offer from North for pick 1, although rejected, makes it seem much more achievable for us (if North didn’t consider that outright insulting).

I don’t think you’re the only one to find GWS pick appealing in conjunction with a salary dump. I myself had that thought as many others would have. And connecting the dots with Petty isn’t a long bow either. If there’s any truth to it, then obviously our footy dept thought so too. Not sure what you’re saying here? You can predict the future (of rumours)? or that someone at the club read your post too? Or that it’s a complete fabrication (likely) but also unoriginal?

No, but one of Adelaide’s forwards in return would be. Not sure what we’d have to give up to GWS to get such a deal over the line, but the AFL seem to have ticked off salary dumps of this nature with Geelong/Bowes last year. They closes the contract extension loophole after last years episode, but I think Heyne only has 1 very expensive year left. It would also give us a salary cap hole to fill next year in free agency.

I doubt the veracity of this, but have been told we might make a move for GWS first pick & Nick Heyne’s salary, then Petty to move for one of Adelaide’s key forwards (Fogarty/Thilthorpe) plus McAdam. Would give us more ammo for pick 1, or a suite of early picks if not. The other positive being that Heyne could temporarily fill a Petty-sized hole in our defense.

Reid for Curtin & Wilson? Probably.

No, it’s a F3 from GC, allowing the dogs to then trade their own F3. I bet they wish it was a F1.

Thinking we are happy to have the cap space at our disposal. $500k (if correct) a lot to have allocated to a VFL player. But who to use it on..?

Just can’t see how Taylor Adams could be worth more than Grundy.

Yes, it’s as if the AFL has set the framework and then failed to consider indexation.

He got figured out. Didn’t add any strings to his bow. Honest trier but not much more.

Maybe a hole at Casey.