dazzledavey36

Oh dear.. 🤣 Looks like even our own players are envious of Collingwood supporters.

I've just watched Nick Larkey kick his 4th goal 5 minutes before hslf time agsinst Sydney. I'd be moving the kitchen sink for this bloke.

Oh dear.. You legitimately said experience counts and the teams we played last year weren't really experienced either, which is again where you're clearly wrong. I then pointed out to you that both Geelong and Western Bulldogs were vastly more finals, and grand finals experienced then we were last year yet we both blew them out of the park with our inexperienced team. My point is that you can have all the experience in the world, but if doesn't stand up on the day which the doggies and Geelong didn't last year, then it just proves that being the vastly experienced teams means jack [censored] if your system and game doesn't isn't stacking up well when opposition clubs ramp the pressure up.

No it's a myth and my point proves that Huh? We played Geelong in a preliminary final who were a far more greater finals experienced then we were. In fact Geelong played off in a grand final the year before. Even the doggies in the grand final still had majority of their premiership players still playing from 2016. It was our system and game plan that stood up. Not because we were inexperienced lol.

This is whole notion of little finals experience is a giant myth. We proved that in 2018 when we marched off to the preliminary final on the back off being 12 years without any finals experience. Then again last year off the back off little finals experience. Every year is different. What happened last year is completely irrelevant going into this year's finals.

Me too. Hence why I probably took the [censored] out @chook fowler initially.. Naughton is my definition of a generational talent. Getting him would be the biggest coup that I have seen in my time supporting the dees.

I think we have to look at someone like a Lloyd Meek, Sam Hayes and Matt Flynn to come in and play a support role next year. There's no doubt we have to recruit a developing ruck in the national draft as well. I'd even add a delisted free agent just for extra insurance.

This is why, as much as I'll be disappointed he leaves (but understand of his circumstance), I'll be fairly excited what the Jason Taylor/Tim Lamb combo can produce. If we're a able to get an early draft pick or two and recruit another Pickett/Jackson like gems that can come in and impact straight away then it's a win in my eyes. If we can get a key forward early or an elite midfielder with class, then it'll go a long way to making sure we're in contention for the next few years at least.

Our game style is built on pressure yet we're ranked 17th in the AFL for pressure. So realistically he's on par with the best key forwards in the game who play for teams with higher pressure rating then Melbourne. It's not that bad. It's not just bringing it to ground. He's still hitting the scoreboard. 14 games this year for 25 goals. He's missed 6 games due to injury/covid. Had he played every game this year he's trajectory towards 40 goals a year. He's not kicking the big bags as what he's use to but it's better then what the likes of Jackson and Weideman have produced this year when up forward.

First rounder that was in the Jackson/Pickett draft. I know we certainly showed interest in his draft year. He's an outside players who's got speed and power with a clean kicking skills. Had a break out year last year playing wing/half back and received a rising star nomination. Could easily slot in on a wing or half back to utilise his kicking skills.

It wasn't an immense game by Brown as you pointed out. I certainly thought it was one of his better games he's had for a bit but. Also, since when is how many kicks you get in a game a key indicator of how you performed on the day, especially for a full forward? In fact, I bet coaches don't put a huge emphasis on how many kicks a full forward should get. I mean even pressure acts for key forwards, is that really another key indicator? Some of the best forwards in the game right now are rated 'below average' for pressure acts. Charlie Curnow Tom Hawkins Jeremy Cameron Harry McKay. All 4 players, including Ben Brown are rated 'below average' in the AFL for pressure acts and they have the exact same numbers or similar. Either your bar is set way too high or you're just now judging his performance unfairly and looking at nitpicking the smaller things when possible. In comparison to some individual performance this weekend from a stats point of view and I'll add the pressure acts as well. Ben Brown: 6 kick 7 marks, 3 which were contest marks, 7 pressure acts 0 tackles and kicked 2.1 Last night Tom Hawkins: 7 kicks last nigh, 5 marks, 1 contested mark only, 6 pressure acts, 0 tackles and kicked 3.1. Jeremy Cameron: 10 kicks, 2 pressure acts, 4 marks and 0 contested marks, 1 tackle and kicked 2.1 I reckon Chris Scott would still be fairly happy on their performances. So in comparison, Benny Brown had a good game on Friday night. Do I think Goody is using him to his strengths? no I don't. Another genuine key forward is needed for the chop out and I think we missed the opportunity to bring JVR in a few backs back to build cohesion.

Oh fair enough mate, apologies. I genuinely thought you just threw that out as wishful thinking. Naughton to Dees is something I would not have expected at all. I have no idea of your history but thanks for the rumour.

Yes good point, you could add our players are more banged up this year then what we were last year.

We were so bloody good at this last year. Yet this year it's the complete opposite.

Have a soft spot for Jesse.. But no.

This 100%

I have had the opinion for a few weeks now that we simply won't win the flag this year. Few factors. Our record against top 8 sides is poor and watching last night just proves that we had not adjusted or tweaked our game plan from the moment we lost to Freo. Not so much Freo, but the weeks leading up to that game where there was some concerns starting to creep through. Goody's stubbornness in not willing to bring new and fresh players into the team to mix up our structure and inject some fresh enthusiasm. We've had 1 [censored] debut player this year and that was Daniel Turner. To continue to remain a successful club you have to regenerate your team and bring in guys who can add a different element and layer into the side. Alastair Clarkson and Kevin Sheedy were always big on this. It's infuriating that he continues to pick the likes of Weideman, Melksham, Bedford who are either not up to AFL standard or are cooked which Melksham has for the past 2 years. These players are revolving doors for team selection. Our Casey team is 16-0 and he's refused to reward the blokes who are putting in the work week in and week out. He's too scared of dropping blokes like ANB, Jordon, Spargo Sparrow who haven't performed for a number of weeks now. Our team and game plan is completely one dimensional because clubs have simply worked us out and yet we haven't tweaked one bit of it to counteract what the opposition are now bringing to the table. We're two rounds off finals and we could be out of the top 4 by end of the weekend. That's infuriating in itself. Going into the finals with the form that we're in, doesn't bode well unfortunately and history will say that you have to be in tip top form with your game plan and structure. Right now ours is just out of wack, and I can't see how we drastically improved come finals when we've barely made much improvement since the middle of the year.

He's taking the [censored].

Their crowd noise was insane. It's like having a 23rd man really. When we ran out at the start of the game all I heard was boo's from Collingwood supporters and barely any cheers from us. They'll feed off their crowd noise come finals. Also, I know Jack Viney isn't the best media performer going around but I genuinely found this comment bizarre. In front of over 70,000 spectators, it was a battle between second and third in Round 21, and it lived up to the hype. “Tonight was a real finals-like atmosphere,” Viney said. “I think the Demon Army gave the Collingwood supporters a real good run for their money tonight. “Hopefully we finish with some big crowds to finish the season.”

Still livid. I went into last night's game so confident thinking that we'd finally turned the corner against freo and that our game from 2021 was starting to take shape again. How wrong was I.. We've learnt nothing from the initial Freo game when they gave us a touch up in the 2nd half. Our delivery inside 50, especially the deep pockets is really perplexing imo. Not only have clubs picked up on in by sitting players back in the hole we have no plan B when opposition start to pick off our entries. Kozzie, Spargo and ANB failed to single tackle inside forward 50... again! If you're not providing defensive pressure inside our forward half or getting to the drop of the ball, then honestly, they're next to useless because around ground they're not giving us much. I could go on and on but I won't. Hate it even more knowing it's a [censored] start to the weekend I'll be stewing on it for the next few days.

My first thought. Barely heard any cheers. Personally I thought they were quiet loud majority of the night. And to be frankly honest, we're not s club that makes big noise.

Even the Bulldogs game you could see our system was not standing up especially our forward half pressure. Missed opportunity to get Chandler and JVR amongst the team. Pretty sure we're the least team this year for players used. Sums it up really..

Their crowd noise were insane. Ours were.. err okay?

Just hope Ed is prepared to cop what's coming back the other way especially when you fire the first shot. I still loved it though lol

How about those inside 50 entries. We just love kicking it to the pockets don't we?