SaberFang

All I expect is effort. I don't care if they don't have skills, this can be worked on. What we're not seeing is the basic effort. They drop their heads. Their body language is horrible. They play like a pack of people expecting to lose.

No invite for Jake Lovett to the combine?

Roos might have made some mistakes on game day, but some of the revisionist history in this thread is ridiculous. People saying going after Roos was a mistake, the same year Neeld was sacked? The same year the club was on its knees? Spare me.

It infuriates me seeing an MFC player take a mark on the cusp of F50 but, with nobody to kick it to, waits 10 seconds for every player and their pet dog to flood the forward line, then just bombs it in expecting one of our players to mark it. Almost every single time it results in 10 players all going for the mark, leaving a spillage out the back where we never have a crumber waiting (probably because they're still running back from opposition defense) and because all our tall forwards decide it's smartest to knock each other out in the one marking contest.

Hawks also have the advantage of a playing group that have stuck fast and played together for a solid length of time. Their senior core have been playing together for nearly a decade. They'd know each other's movements inside out because they don't make wholesale changes to the list every year in the way we have.

Happy 50th, Norm. I hope we made you proud.

I'm convinced we have major structural problems which means one of two things: A) Roos is clueless and has no idea what he's doing B) The players have no footy nous and can't execute a basic defensive gameplan or understand/remember their structures on game day I'm inclined to go with the latter. Couple that with the rolling maul of players that sees the best young forward in the league gaining possession at half-back with nobody up the ground to kick it to, wait 10 seconds for a player to finally break free and run through the middle, then kick it to them and watch them proceed to fluff the mark and turn it over, and you can see where our problems lie. Unskilled, exhausted, confused and disinterested footballers.

Maybe they're actually just spending 3 years teaching Goodwin how NOT to coach on game day?

I wanted to throw a brick through my television after the 10th time a player in the forward 50, with a clean shot of goal, instead chose to handball to a player on the wing at a worse angle. Naturally, they then either A) have a kick for goal but sprays it or B) gets tackled immediately, forcing a stoppage. Our players are simply incapable of separating "smart play" from "team play." They don't make smart decisions and everyone seems to second guess themselves with the most simple decisions.

Even without seeing the video, it's easy to tell this was said through gritted teeth. Roos, too, would be running out of things to say after losses like that.

I'd hope Roos isn't even close to losing the players, but it's becoming very, very apparent that what he's trying to implement is outdated and was found out years ago by other clubs.

"Wish I still had Hunt's number in my phone."

I'm not convinced that just rushing Goodwin's promotion a year will do anything to help. It's the same "let's just get rid of this guy and get someone else!" mentality that saw us end up with Neeld.

Don't forget bombing it to the goal square where a lonely Saints player was standing waiting for an easy mark. Multiple times. We are so easy to coach against, we've clearly been found out.

To see just how successful the Sydney Swans blueprint is going in modern footy, flick over to that game in Perth.

Did anyone rate Michie being the sub?

Gee whiz, all I can say is Goodwin better know his stuff once he takes charge. I legitimately question what improvement we'll show by the time Roos leaves.

Doing everything in our power to get back underneath Essendon on the ladder.

"We're so sorry we made you the sub."

What the actual hell do these players do all week? Certainly not practicing skills.

The drop-off from Tyson has been such a disappointment this year.

Putting McDonald forward was a neat trick to surprise the opposition a few weeks back, but when the opposition knows he's going to be forward they have all week to plan around it.

Two smaller teams, terrible winter weather, Sunday afternoon match. A small crowd wouldn't be a surprise, but the timeslot doesn't help.

Disappointing result. And the ongoing theme of our final score being 60 points continues... eerie.

I hope I eat my words, but that's a perplexing decision for the sub.