samcantstandya

Well if he was considered over the hill at the Bulldogs why is he such good value for us other than being a good role model which he good be on the training track. I want us to go after young guns not the Rodens, Brynes and Pedersons of the football world.

Then we are screwed. Because he wasn't in Footscray's best 22.

I cringe every time we trade an early draft pick for a package/player. I was against giving up pick 20 for Ben Holland, a low pick to Geelong for Clint Bizzel(They selected James Kell with our pick) & pick whilst I like Tyson & hope Salem will be gun. I saw Kelly as a young gun with poise something we lack. It's so hard to follow Melbourne. Hope we start playing players with grunt, talent and footy nous. I'm sick of players who can't kick or read the play.

Cross is a very professional player but I really don't know what position he plays in the team. I'd have him captain of Casey. He's another NQR player to join Brynes, Bail, Spencer, Terlich, M.Jones, Pederson and the rest. We won't be taken seriously until we play players with heart and skill. Give me Kent and Viney who play with passion.

How does Bail still stayi in the side? Brynes only because he kicked 2 and Pederson by the virtue of the fact that all our good talls are either injured or unavailable.

Pederson has done nothing but still gets a game no wonder we are crap we reward players who play like crap with games.

Ditto

That doesn't mean he is a good player. He's getting game time with us because Blease can't get his act together. Whilst we have him Pederson, Bail and Spencer in the side we are catcus.

Pederson offers nothing.

Pederson & Spencer offered us nothing. Pederson looks unfit. Bring in Gawn & ????

I still reckon we will win. It's just I don't rate Byrnes & Bail. I hope they play well but Brynes goes missing and Bail is either injured or gets stage fright.

I can't agree. Brynes is very patchy and has a low work rate and Bail is like a rabbit in front of headlights when he is in a scoring opportunity. So if our fate rests on these 2 then we are in big trouble.

They may been told to bang it long but if they can't hit targets or kick to our advantage they are liabilities.

Ditto

Dwayne is a [censored].

Maybe we have another Paul Prmyke on our hands.

We have too many players who can't kick on our list, Nicholson, Mckenzie,Spencer, Cross.......amazingly you'd think at AFL level a selected player should be an elite kick and if thet aren't you'd practice. Bail missed a couple of regulation kicks for goal but gets one from an acjute angle. Again until we get more skilled players into the side we won't be a consistently competitive side.

I think we will definitely pick him maybe round 3 or 2 if some club bids. I like the idea of someone who barracks 4 us wanting 2 play & not so much 4 the paycheck.Its gr8 when a young player loves the club even b4 he gets grafted. I know Wines wanted 2 play 4 us but in that instance we had 2 go 4 Jimmy T. Also young Stretch has the father son link.

Not sure how Nicho will improve his kicking once real pressure starts in a game. If he can't he is surely gone in 2014.

Of that list Strauss, Bail, Byrnes, Nicholson & Jetta would need to play the majority of the season to warrant another contract. Blease& Tapscott need to repay the faith as well. I will watch with interest but I can't see how Nicholson, Brynes & Bail in particular can improve or for that matter deliver. Who wants players that can't kick or don't go 100%.

He might be fit, but he can't kick and isn't a natural footballer. For that matter neither are Mckenzie & Bail - whilst they are on our list, it just goes to show we are carrying a lot of deadwood that wouldn't be on other lists. Okay McDonald can't kick either, but he can spoil etc... In order to become a serious contender in the future we have to prune our deadwood, whilst they get a game we will not be able to carry them like a top 4 side maybe could. It really frustrates the hell out of me that these types of players (McDonald excluded) get cont.racts and do dilly squat - Bail is always concussed. Jordie can't kick to save himself. We've never had a player named Nicholson that was any good (Alistair should have stuck with hockey). Don't get me started on Pedo or Brynnes(sorry if mispelt).

I find it amusing that everyone says how well Nicholson & Bail run. They have really poor foot skills, but they are fast. I'd rather a slow footballer who can kick. If they don't improve their skillset they are both gone at the end of the yr along with Brynes. Pedo the yr after.

Then I'd prefer Scharenberg, from Salem and Freeman.

I'd take Scharenberg if available even if he has stress fracture in his feet. He is the prototype midfielder going forward. Otherwise if Aish is there or Salem. Freeman's disposal worries me.